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Old 12-18-2019, 08:11 AM
 
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Can we stop it with the "rigged" elections nonsense? Trump won because he was in the right places at the right time. Hillary was in the wrong places at the wrong time. Case closed.

Other than that, I don't disagree with most of what you've written above. Very hard to unseat an incumbent with a good economy at their back.
Hillary and the DNC rigged their own primaries against Sanders. Forget Trump, because the first victim of their election rigging nonsense was against Sen. GetOffMyLawn. The DNC thought they stacked the deck right at every table, but it turns out they didn't count on the voter wild card at the final table.

Funny thing about the US election process - the Electoral College is still who elects Presidents. In their zeal to parade Hillary before her adoring throngs in LA and Manhattan, they forgot about...oh well...the rest of the country?

You can see them repeating that mistake now, and actually tripling their losing bet in the process. Nothing in the Dem platform, not one single plank, plays better between the coasts than Trump's daily reality. And all of them are parroting some version of it, minus Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard, neither of whom stand a chance to emerge from the DNC swamp as the nominee.

Honestly, outside of the economy somehow falling apart catastrophically like the 3rd week of October 2020, they have no chance. And from today forward, Trump will have the "I beat the attempted coup, I am invincible" plank in his platform. Add that to a humming economy and general lack of interest in the Democrat candidates, and well...things don't look so good for the challengers.
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Old 12-18-2019, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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I agree, Trump has a decent shot at reelection. But if he does, it will Peak Conservatism. Trump is the final swan song of the Boomer generation.

Demographics say change is coming... towards the Left. Arizona, once solid red, is now purple and will probably be a swing state next year. The margin of Republican victories in Texas continue to shrink as demographic changes take hold there. Every year that goes by there are 700,000 fewer Boomers due to mortality.

In an Emerson poll, Bernie Sanders held a huge lead of 73% among Democrats in the 18-29 age range. That is huge.

The forces that are slowly building against the Republicans are 1) frustration among younger people that they cannot buy a home, due to high prices, low wages and staggering student debt, and 2) immigrant resentment for being made the scapegoat by the Republican party. Trump has a good shot at overcoming these slowly shifting sands one last time... after that, the political pendulum will be overdue to swing back to the other side, like it always does.
Children eventually grow up, move out of their parent's basement, get jobs and in many cases start families. Children and young adults have always been more liberal than more mature adults-this is nothing new. They have had parents provide for them all their lives-they look for a government to do the same. Eventually they grow up and realize that....they are the ones that have to pay for these things.
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Old 12-18-2019, 08:37 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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Hillary and the DNC rigged their own primaries against Sanders. Forget Trump, because the first victim of their election rigging nonsense was against Sen. GetOffMyLawn. The DNC thought they stacked the deck right at every table, but it turns out they didn't count on the voter wild card at the final table.

Funny thing about the US election process - the Electoral College is still who elects Presidents. In their zeal to parade Hillary before her adoring throngs in LA and Manhattan, they forgot about...oh well...the rest of the country?

You can see them repeating that mistake now, and actually tripling their losing bet in the process. Nothing in the Dem platform, not one single plank, plays better between the coasts than Trump's daily reality. And all of them are parroting some version of it, minus Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard, neither of whom stand a chance to emerge from the DNC swamp as the nominee.

Honestly, outside of the economy somehow falling apart catastrophically like the 3rd week of October 2020, they have no chance. And from today forward, Trump will have the "I beat the attempted coup, I am invincible" plank in his platform. Add that to a humming economy and general lack of interest in the Democrat candidates, and well...things don't look so good for the challengers.
Some excellent points. I've been saying similar things here. There is a whole swath of the middle of the country that isn't down with a lot of the silly identity politics games and total lackluster candidates that the Dems are putting up. As long as the economy stays strong and the dems keep breaking their necks to see who can go further left, Trump has a strong shot at beating them, even with his unlikability factor that he has.

I think if there was a strong centrist that focused on all of the bread and butter issues and has a message other than trump sucks, that Dem would have a good shot at beating Trump. All they have to do is flip back those four or five states that went for trump last go around.

If I can see this and it seems likely why can't all of these high dollar campaign advisors and the like can't. Surely these people who do this for a living can see this play out.
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