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Old 12-17-2019, 10:24 PM
 
Location: United States
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Thank you for your post. With all due respect, I don't get why people say he's committed crimes. Is there any evidence or are you echoing what you heard on the news? What crimes and who is the source cited? It seems like all the witnesses offered only second-hand info, hearsay, and opinions. I stopped watching. Was there a legit first-hand witness to any specific crime?
All first hand information proved the president didn't to anything wrong.

That of course is why the dems have to case to bring to the senate.
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Old 12-17-2019, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Who can cash in on this?

Donkey show?
WWF?
Cash for cans?
A new reality channel? The impeachment channel? A fantasy Congress voting website like fantasy football? Dead pool for SCOTUS? Let's have fun with this.

Let's get some ideas for $$ here?
Crooked Trump will fake a heart attack to garner sympathy.
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Old 12-18-2019, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Renewed support form the base that hasn't budged since he said he liked to grab women's...oh you know.

Yeah -- That's not what is going to win the election.

We have a long way to go until next November.

How quickly people forget.
What could win the election for the Democrats is a rational, sane candidate that isn't a) showing signs of dementia or b) promising to throw Americans even farther under the bus. Unfortunately, the Democrats don't have one right now. The impeachment is, at this moment, the only chance that the Democrats have to get Trump out of office prior to 2024.

You err in the assumption that Trump's support is merely from his base. When half of America thinks that the Democratic party has moved too far left, it indicates a massive blow-back come election time. But go ahead, encourage the Dems to continue with their impeachment (which the majority does not support) and to continue running candidates that support higher taxes and bigger government.
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Old 12-18-2019, 03:26 AM
 
Location: In the desert
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Originally Posted by settled00 View Post
Thank you for your post. With all due respect, I don't get why people say he's committed crimes. Is there any evidence or are you echoing what you heard on the news? What crimes and who is the source cited? It seems like all the witnesses offered only second-hand info, hearsay, and opinions. I stopped watching. Was there a legit first-hand witness to any specific crime?
Trump has prevented anyone from testifying that could possibly offer first-hand info as well as many documents. I for one think everyone and everything related to these charges should be shown so the entire picture can be seen. One who has nothing to hide, hides nothing.
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Old 12-18-2019, 03:28 AM
 
Location: In the desert
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All first hand information proved the president didn't to anything wrong.

That of course is why the dems have to case to bring to the senate.
We haven't seen first hand information because its been prevented. Do you truly believe everyone who did testify is lying?
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Old 12-18-2019, 03:35 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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They will impeach him, and the senate will not vote to remove him from power. I haven't heard many people bring this up. No one cares. Everyone knows this is a political stunt by Democrats, even Democrats themselves. They just want to impeach him because they think that will tarnish his reputation. They didn't even try to get Republicans onboard for his removal.
^^^^This. It is an attempt to falsely smear Trump to effect the 2020 election. Everyone knows that. The Dems can say throughout the campaign that "Trump was Impeached", and the MEDIA will repeat that narrative the entire time. It will ultimately fail. .
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Old 12-18-2019, 04:19 AM
 
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Trump has prevented anyone from testifying that could possibly offer first-hand info as well as many documents. I for one think everyone and everything related to these charges should be shown so the entire picture can be seen. One who has nothing to hide, hides nothing.
That clearly isn’t true.

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We haven't seen first hand information because its been prevented. Do you truly believe everyone who did testify is lying?
Close to 20 people DID “testify” and they all came from the Executive Branch.
The entire kerfluffle was about a Presidential phone call ... AND the President released the Transcript of the call. Vindman was on the call and said the Transcript was accurate. Morrison was on the call, did testify and Schiff & Nadler refused to release his Testimony. (Didn’t fit the Leftist narrative)
NONE of them were allowed to “testify” to the Judicial Committee during the Kangaroo Court.

Vindman’s big complaint was “I wrote talking points and Orange Man Bad didn’t use them!”
He made it clear that something called the Inter-Agency determines Foreign Policy and Trump actually thinks that the President of the United States is in charge of Foreign Policy.
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Old 12-18-2019, 05:37 AM
 
Location: In the desert
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That clearly isn’t true.



Close to 20 people DID “testify” and they all came from the Executive Branch.
The entire kerfluffle was about a Presidential phone call ... AND the President released the Transcript of the call. Vindman was on the call and said the Transcript was accurate. Morrison was on the call, did testify and Schiff & Nadler refused to release his Testimony. (Didn’t fit the Leftist narrative)
NONE of them were allowed to “testify” to the Judicial Committee during the Kangaroo Court.

Vindman’s big complaint was “I wrote talking points and Orange Man Bad didn’t use them!”
He made it clear that something called the Inter-Agency determines Foreign Policy and Trump actually thinks that the President of the United States is in charge of Foreign Policy.
Why then try to hard to prevent testimony from Bolton and Mulvaney? I think the American people should see and hear ALL of it including as you say Morrison's testimony. Also, why is the presidents attorney still going to Ukraine? He isn't doing any favors by admitting he had to get Yovanovitch out of the way? Why?
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Old 12-18-2019, 05:55 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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When the Senate lets him get away with his crimes, that's when things will really heat up. There are still a lot of people in this country that believe in our Constitution and you will see the results of that soon.
What crimes? The house Dems didn't allege any crimes. They just spewed vague articles of impeachment.
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Old 12-18-2019, 05:56 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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This is like the episode from The Office when Michael wants corporate to fire Toby.

"We can't fire him without cause Michael"

"I have cause and it's because I don't like him"
Funny, and excellent point!
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