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Old 12-20-2019, 06:33 PM
 
Location: NY
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Originally Posted by KaraG View Post
I remember those, that's why I always used to say I wanted him to run.

I am a true believer that government grows too big and needs knocked down by an outsider now and then. I voted for Perot too. People in politics too long lose touch with the real world and they are desperate not to lose their power.
Opinion:
That is the origins of the word RETIRED......................
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Old 12-20-2019, 06:40 PM
 
Location: NY
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Originally Posted by Miso Blu View Post
What would you call an administration without compassion for the sick, the elderly or the poor? Are we going to eat grandpa now because he's outlived his usefulness? Trample the basic human rights of the sick and the dying?
I thought we were better than animals...according to your "opinion", we are on the same level.
Opinion:
We are better than animals not by much. We warehouse our invalids in facilities ......er ...I mean we lovingly
place our loving family members into institutions where they are visited daily by there loving families. I know
this road all to well. Very few are willing to sacrifice themselves for others but put more effort into blaming
government for not doing anything about their personal problems................
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Old 12-20-2019, 06:43 PM
 
Location: NY
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A number of Trump haters have posted this same thing. Which is why Democrats and Liberals are in big trouble, they refuse to believe what they don't agree with and instead call people liars. Is it any wonder how much crazy hatred is being expressed by some on the left? The funny thing is by ignoring these voters or calling them liars is just driving them more towards the Republicans. At this point perhaps if the Dems would actually take their hands off their ears and LISTEN they might put forward Candidates and Policies that these people might vote for. I think this might go beyond Trump. I have been a pretty independent voter since i started voting in 1988, voting Democratic slightly more than Republican but all the craziness among the Democrats has frightened me more than i am disgusted with Trumps personal behavior. For the first time ever i am just going to vote Republican across the board. And if the Dems continue this behavior for Trumps next term and put forth another batch of loonies I can see becoming a Republican voter instead of the Independent voter i have always been. But I am sure posters like the above won't believe me and just call me a liar as well Instead of Learning to LISTEN.
Opinion: Well done.
It is easier to Hate than it is to Hear......
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Old 12-20-2019, 06:48 PM
 
Location: NY
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Originally Posted by vision33r View Post
Wall Street is expecting Trump to be re-elected. Even Zuckerberg himself said he doesn't want Warren and probably not Bernie to be President. He supports Yang and most older democrats are too dumb to pick Yang.

The democrat party is very weak because they are locked in their own identity battle. They have too many young people that will only vote the ultra left and the aging democrats leaving the party because the issues such as illegals and impeachment process is gonna bite them. They gonna have to pick a woman as nominee or running mate, they may even need to pick a gay person. This is all the identity crap they picked up as the party's platform which will cause many liberals to get upset when they don't see the identities they want to represent them.
Opinion:
This is the result of years and years
of pounding Leftist ideology. The devil
is always in the details. Master of confusion.
Their college experiments have backfired...
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Old 12-20-2019, 06:51 PM
 
Location: NY
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you dont post on here constant trump supporting things the last year or 2 and then claim you voted Hillary last presidential election...
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I apologize for not being as articulate as you..................help from the audience appreciated.
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Old 12-20-2019, 06:54 PM
 
Location: NY
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Where did I call anyone a liar? Please show your source. Saying I don't believe...etc, is not calling anyone a liar. See, this silly deflection and playground tactics get Trumpists nowhere. They don't bother me. When I do call someone a liar, they know it. They don't have to use insinuation to make their point.

I've got another 10 years of voting on you and I have voted across party lines several times. Perhaps the difference between us is not only age but also that I do not vote against my own best interests just to "hurt" the other party because I'm mad. As to the "craziness" of the Democratic party, the Republicans own their own share of insanity.

I vote my principals, not on celebrity appeal.

Excerpt: I vote my principals,

Opinion: and it all starts with all Americans thinking what's best for America.
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Old 12-20-2019, 06:57 PM
 
Location: NY
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I voted for Hillary and then Bernie. After watching how they are treating Trump so personally and not working for the American people, but wasting time on impeachment and the Russian thing, I have since left the Democratic Party and will no longer support them. Just because we lost and don't like the current president, doesn't mean we stop working for the American people. I have been a lifelong democrat. Not anymore and I know a lot of people who are switching from the race and gender based politics of the democrats, not to mention how childish they are. Like a choir of whiny babies. I feel very good about leaving the party especially now with this odd impeachment that won't even go to the senate? I don't count that as impeachment if there is no trial. Sorry, but that is pathetic!
Opinion:
Even as you speak our President has begun bartering a better trade deal for America with China.
The president is a patriot thinking of Americans rather than himself during this pivotal time in his life.
True Iron Grit.......................
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Old 12-20-2019, 06:59 PM
 
Location: NY
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You could always move to Venezuela. Oh you think that is extreme? Well have a visit to the Scandinavian country or two and drive by the most expensive homes there. You know the million dollar ones on the water. Have a look at their license plates and see for yourself WHO is living in those homes. Most every single one of them is a governmental employee. No thanks on socialism that creates a situation where governments prohibit growth for individuals and creates money so our government employees make all the money. You can have that crap thanks.
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I would make it Law that all college students visit third world countries as they matriculate towards their degree.
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Old 12-20-2019, 07:01 PM
 
Location: NY
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/sigh you just made my point about failing to LISTEN. YOUR statement is Quoted in my post and is as follows

Originally Posted by Miso Blu

I don't believe in Santa Claus and I don't believe you voted for Hillary.


You said very pointedly that you Don't believe that other poster voted for Hilary when they stated that they did. If you don't understand that is calling that poster a liar well I imagine you would find very few here who would agree with you. Now if i were to respond to you and say I don't believe you have 10 years of voting on me and that you have voted across party lines, what would you think? Do you think perhaps I would be saying you were a Liar? Saying you don't "believe" someone's statement is calling that person a liar. Now I will accept that it wasn't your Intent to call that person a liar but it certainly came across that way.

As for "the Republicans own their own share of insanity. " I would agree but its a pale shadow of what is going on with the Democrats. One big crazy orange guy vs a shipload of crazy people which are continually being driven by radical leftist philosophy. A Philosophy Which is driving Moderate voters such as myself towards the Republicans and for some reason the Democrats to a large part seem to be missing that.
Opinion: Well done..........as I stated....It is much easier to Hate than it is to Hear.
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Old 12-20-2019, 07:05 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Mr. Retired: I'm going to take you at face value and believe that you did vote for Hillary Clinton and would vote for Donald Trump now. While I wouldn't agree with the vote for either of these two individuals you did one thing, or maybe two things, that I think are admirable.

1. You didn't just tow the party line regardless of who was running just because they had a (D) or an (R) by their name; and
2. You actually thought through a reason for voting for someone rather than just picking them because of their party, or you recognized their name, or you like their personality. I don't agree with you on that particular reason, but you seem to have given that some thought, from your perspective. A lot of people totally miss that.

Now, if it were me, and those were the only two people on the ballot for President of the United States with no write-ins or third parties (who wouldn't have a decent chance anyway), I would still show up to vote, but I would leave both spaces blank because I don't have confidence in either one. But I would still vote simply to make it known that someone showed up at my precinct to make it a little less likely for the politicians to write me and my area off as "apathetic" and ignore me/my demographic/my area in favor of other more politically engaged people/areas.
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