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Old 12-19-2019, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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"Coup"? Do you even know what a real coup is?
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Old 12-19-2019, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Impeachment is a non-issue to most voters. The big thing in 2020? The Obamacare Trap that Republicans fell into yesterday with the Appeals Court ruling delaying the Republican attempt to sabotage the law until after the election. The Dems have an issue other than Trump now and it is a big one. It may not make the difference on the Pres election, but the House is secure and the Senate may well be in play now on health care like it was in 2018.
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Old 12-19-2019, 01:13 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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Despite the so called blue wave of the midterms, the Democrats hold on the House is very tenuous at best. This impeachment was a gift to the Republicans.
Wishful thinking. The divide over the impeachment is pretty evenly split. See what happened to Bill Clinton's impeachment, which had even less support:

A year after Clinton impeachment, public approval grows of House decision - December 16, 1999

The Senate trial of Clinton was a pretty classy affair. We'll see if the current crop of hand puppets can live up to that.
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Old 12-19-2019, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Maine
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We could be Cuba. We could be like Venezuela. North Korea is nice this time of the year.
Bernie likes the Russian model so much, he and his wife Honeymooned there.
Bernie no longer Cares much for Russia, ever since they threw in the towel on communism.
When he and his corrupt wife honeymooned there it was still the Soviet Union.
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Old 12-19-2019, 01:42 PM
 
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Impeachment is a non-issue to most voters. The big thing in 2020? The Obamacare Trap that Republicans fell into yesterday with the Appeals Court ruling delaying the Republican attempt to sabotage the law until after the election. The Dems have an issue other than Trump now and it is a big one. It may not make the difference on the Pres election, but the House is secure and the Senate may well be in play now on health care like it was in 2018.
I really don't see the house as secure at all. The so called blue wave in midterms were filled with tiny1-2% wins in Trump districts. There are 55 seats in Trump districts up for grabs.

I agree with you on health care issues helping dems
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Old 12-19-2019, 08:15 PM
 
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Trump has the ability to transform the courts, supreme court, and fundamentally transform this country with a second term. An I by his name won't mean much.


He already has. 2 SC associates, both Conservs, each young enough to serve during the next 5- POTUS terms.
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Old 12-19-2019, 08:17 PM
 
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Democrats need to be looking across the Atlantic to see the carnage that hit the "liberals" for the same sort of bull**** pulled there. They were knocked back to 1935. They lost seats held for more than 70 years.



UK elections portend US elections and vice versa.
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Old 12-19-2019, 08:21 PM
 
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I have resigned myself that the Dems very well may lose the house. I'm just glad they called Trump out on his abuse of power. Something that will stay with him and in the history books forever. They did the right thing. Elections change, Congress changes, but having that "I" after his name never will.
Too bad for you that history will not be kind to the Democrats... Glad is very short-sighted.... What's even better is that he will be remembered as one of the greatest President ever... Now if only Ginsburg....
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Old 12-19-2019, 08:26 PM
 
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I am not hoping for any bad fate for RBG, but she will likely retire long before POTUS Trump's 2nd term is complete.


SC Associate Amy Barrett next IMO.
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Old 12-19-2019, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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I am not hoping for any bad fate for RBG, but she will likely retire long before POTUS Trump's 2nd term is complete.


SC Associate Amy Barrett next IMO.
Agreed. If Trump is re-elected, he should have 2 more Supreme Court nominations--RBG who will most likely step down next year, and possibly Breyer, who may retire within a couple years (he's 81).

But Breyer could hold off until 2025, see if a Democrat is elected--he's getting up there though.

Clarence Thomas could retire, a lot of folks are saying, but that would be conservative replaced with conservative.
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