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It's a kiss and the scene was only for a half second. It was not a sex scene or a rape. It's insulting that Republicans continually compare same-sex relationships to rape, bestiality, pedophilia, etc.
Despite all the screaming and foot stomping from Republicans, it's not 1955 anymore.
Disney tried to please everyone and ended up getting both sides upset. Conservatives are upset over the gay kiss and the LGBTQ people are upset because it was so brief. The gay community wanted a romance between the two main male characters and that didn’t happen. It was pure pandering on Disney’s part.
I saw it and almost missed it. It reminds me of the Beauty and the Beast uproar. It was really nothing. The movie had enough problems apart from the kiss.
I’m more ticked that it was a poor man’s Return of the Jedi remake.
Gays openly marched with NAMBLA and a prominent gay leader wore a NAMBLA shirt during a gay parade. NAMBLA still exist and their members are ALL homosexuals. Stats I’ve read show the Catholic Church has a lower child molestation conviction rate than public school teachers and Rabbis. But the media finds priests more interesting. I don’t really care.
Has the Catholic Church turned all pedophile priests over to law enforcement authorities? They cannot be prosecuted and convicted if they are not arrested, can they?
One "prominent gay leader" is not all gay people, and gay people do not support NAMBLA. I gave one link before. Here is another, from 1994:
"The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation deplores North American Man Boy Love Association's (NAMBLA) goals which include advocacy for sex between adult men and boys and the removal of legal protections for children. These goals constitute a form of child abuse and are repugnant to GLAAD."
"GLAAD also supports the statements issued by other gay and lesbian organizations supporting the International Lesbian and Gay Association's (ILGA) call for NAMBLA's immediate removal from the international association."
Exactly. Now, was that so very difficult to acknowledge?
Pedos exist. Yes. In the church, at the grocery, at the movies, at the post office, etc., etc., etc.
However, I am not aware of ANY other organization that's sole purpose is to partake in a CRIME. And yet ... the organization STILL EXISTS. Can you name any other organizations that exist specifically to promote and partake in pedophilia? Any? At all? Wear it proudly and include it in their organization NAME?
And nary a peep from the LGBT arena to SHUT. IT. DOWN. You'd think that they would be screaming to get rid of it. Why not?
If this were an organization of straight men, I would have the EXACT. SAME. OPINION.
OP still hasn't weighed in. Shocker.
I side with the voice of reason, wherever that is.
Why should homosexuals be out against NAMBLA? I thought it was universal that pedophilia and even padophilia are wrong. Also NAMBLA is kind of a non-issue right now. NAMBLA hasn't been in the news that much except for a few "Naughty list" operations for kiddie porn articles, a few articles about some professor condemned for allegedly defending them and Rep. Jim Jordan being falsely attributed to the group on Wikipedia over the last few months.
What I do notice is you stress on NAMBLA but not female teachers or priests. You are seemingly only now backtracking and commenting that since you were called out on it because you are obsessed with NAMBLA. Typical Religious Right, never attack the religious people who are sinners against their congregations, just those that aren't religious in the first place. I'm sure you forgave Falwell and the Bakkers.
As for my comment about NAMBLA, it is only because it is staring right at you. If you look at the name, it can't be anything else but homosexual. Man-boy Love. Women cannot be a apart of it. The OP likely hasn't weighted in because 1 it is the holidays, 2 they might just be at work or 3 you are beating a dead horse about NAMBLA being a homosexual organization.
That I brought up Harry Hay is irrelevant to your post and has nothing to do with it.
Actually, it is relevant. The poster I initially replied to mentioned Harvey Milk as a person the left wants to cannonize while canceling Confederate statues. That poster then claimed that Milk was a sexual predator preying on children. Not Harry Hay, not Pogo the Clown, not Jeffery Dahmer but Harvey Milk. Milk was merely fighting the strawman that continues in certain pockets of the fear mongering religious right about homosexuality, that they are sexual predators preying on children. Only the pockets like NAMBLA do and they are pedophiles and padophiles on top of being homosexuality. They are still brain wired sexual preferences, but you can be homosexual and not be into pedophilia and padophilia; and you can be a pedophile and be straight. They are NOT mutually exclusive.
Now as for Harry Hay, since he was for NAMBLA I have no use for him. But as I said, why does NAMBLA have to be brought up with a thread about two lesbians kissing other than the religious right using strawmen.
Disney tried to please everyone and ended up getting both sides upset. Conservatives are upset over the gay kiss and the LGBTQ people are upset because it was so brief. The gay community wanted a romance between the two main male characters and that didn’t happen. It was pure pandering on Disney’s part.
I saw it and almost missed it. It reminds me of the Beauty and the Beast uproar. It was really nothing. The movie had enough problems apart from the kiss.
I’m more ticked that it was a poor man’s Return of the Jedi remake.
The Beauty and the Beast was worse because besides a few throwaway lines and LeFou dancing with a male, you would only think it is double entendre. With Disney's mentioning of a homosexual scene, people KNEW to look for it. I really think they didn't need to do that as the million moms panel and other religious right groups would have moaned and complained about a homosexual scene and the LGBTQIA would say it wasn't enough. I'm an ally for the LGBTQI community and I think it was rightly balanced as was the way it was handled in Rise of Skywalker. That said, in Rise of Skywalker, I couldn't tell the pilot was female until I got a mostly clear shot of her face. In the out of focus shots and the kiss, she looked like she similar to Pat and could have been either gender... I'll see again tomorrow when I take my father to it.
As for the LGBTQIA community, I have to say that in many movies and many fandoms they want too much. I'm not saying it is strictly male fantasy for either two women to kiss or two men to kiss, or that it is by straight or LGBTQI people, but they get very opinionated. So do the Rylo shippers (those that wanted Ray and Kylo Ren to be something) but I feel the LGBTQIA groups push it to a level. It was a quick peck which was all that was needed in the scene. A full on Luke-Leia Empire Strikes Back kiss between two bit characters, is a bit much. I also think unless we pulled a Dodgeball and it was used as a funny moment (which would not work in Star Wars' brand of humor) it wouldn't work with a main character. I know several wanted Fin and Poe to ship but I see them just as Star Wars' JD and Turk. Then again today I'm sure Luke and Han or Han and Lando would be shipped...
The problem I have with the LGBTQIA community in film is they want to be all over the place. Take comics for example. Only a handful of comic figures are gay, lesbian or trans. X-Men had a few, Mystique and Destiny, Northstar, Iceman but yet, they want Capt and Bucky to kiss, Capt. and Iron Man to date, Captain Marvel to be a lesbian... Hell, the LGBTQIA wanted Elsa to be gay when Frozen came out. You think Beauty and the Beast and Rise of Skywalker's backlash over "blink and you miss it" scenes were bad, it would cripple Disney and any future release by them. I love the LGBTQIA community, but with some representation, they need to calm down too.
He also said, when the aids epidemic started, that gays getting aids was God's punishment for being gay.
His buddy Ronald Reagan listened to him, and made sure no federal money would be used during his presidency to fight the disease.
The day of Reagan's funeral, I prayed that the miserable bastard would rot in hell.
Bob.
He also said 9/11 was God's punishment for a nation that tolerates homosexuality.
It's amazing how much damage that man did to American democracy and social cohesion and how strong his legacy still lives on today.
Disney tried to please everyone and ended up getting both sides upset. Conservatives are upset over the gay kiss and the LGBTQ people are upset because it was so brief. The gay community wanted a romance between the two main male characters and that didn’t happen. It was pure pandering on Disney’s part.
I'm not upset that it was brief. To be honest, it was the last thing on my mind when watching the movie.
The Beauty and the Beast was worse because besides a few throwaway lines and LeFou dancing with a male, you would only think it is double entendre. With Disney's mentioning of a homosexual scene, people KNEW to look for it. I really think they didn't need to do that as the million moms panel and other religious right groups would have moaned and complained about a homosexual scene and the LGBTQIA would say it wasn't enough. I'm an ally for the LGBTQI community and I think it was rightly balanced as was the way it was handled in Rise of Skywalker. That said, in Rise of Skywalker, I couldn't tell the pilot was female until I got a mostly clear shot of her face. In the out of focus shots and the kiss, she looked like she similar to Pat and could have been either gender... I'll see again tomorrow when I take my father to it.
As for the LGBTQIA community, I have to say that in many movies and many fandoms they want too much. I'm not saying it is strictly male fantasy for either two women to kiss or two men to kiss, or that it is by straight or LGBTQI people, but they get very opinionated. So do the Rylo shippers (those that wanted Ray and Kylo Ren to be something) but I feel the LGBTQIA groups push it to a level. It was a quick peck which was all that was needed in the scene. A full on Luke-Leia Empire Strikes Back kiss between two bit characters, is a bit much. I also think unless we pulled a Dodgeball and it was used as a funny moment (which would not work in Star Wars' brand of humor) it wouldn't work with a main character. I know several wanted Fin and Poe to ship but I see them just as Star Wars' JD and Turk. Then again today I'm sure Luke and Han or Han and Lando would be shipped...
The problem I have with the LGBTQIA community in film is they want to be all over the place. Take comics for example. Only a handful of comic figures are gay, lesbian or trans. X-Men had a few, Mystique and Destiny, Northstar, Iceman but yet, they want Capt and Bucky to kiss, Capt. and Iron Man to date, Captain Marvel to be a lesbian... Hell, the LGBTQIA wanted Elsa to be gay when Frozen came out. You think Beauty and the Beast and Rise of Skywalker's backlash over "blink and you miss it" scenes were bad, it would cripple Disney and any future release by them. I love the LGBTQIA community, but with some representation, they need to calm down too.
It is a sad time in human history when what once was an enjoyable family experience to go to a movies for decent quality family entertainment, has since turn into political and politically correct issues and agendas. What is so wrong with Hollywood anymore. Can't we forego such issues for a nice simple family movie anymore. We used to go to movies for a break from the working ordeals of daily life, and now they added social AND political agendas as well. I guess I haven't miss anything by not going to movies anymore! Another piece of American history overtaken by liberal agendas.
BTW...where’s Darth Vader to slay these two deviants!
1) Star Wars - Don't Care
2) Same Sex Kiss - Why is this an issue? Jeebus. Who cares?
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I'll see again tomorrow when I take my father to it.
