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Old 12-21-2019, 06:32 AM
 
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I saw an interesting clip on the news about how al the illegals coming here are destroying the eco systems in the southwest with trash, trampling native fauna, and camp fires, among other things. Where are the environmentalists on this problem?

It also said that in sections where a wall has been built and illegal crossings have dropped, the eco systems are starting to come back.
The trash is real, I've run into it myself. https://www.tucsonweekly.com/tucson/...nt?oid=1168857
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Old 12-21-2019, 12:25 PM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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In all honesty, we should really invade Mexico and take it over. Don't know what the hell we're waiting for. It's just stupid to not take it over.
That's the good old imperialism spirit...
(although it does beg for the question, not unlike the dog that catches the bus it's chasing, what do you do once you've got it?)
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Old 12-21-2019, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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But idiot leftists want open borders

https://www.al.com/news/2019/12/mexi...-5-states.html
No one wants open borders. Stop lying.

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Old 12-21-2019, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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No one wants open borders. Stop lying.
But yes, they do. If illegal border crossings are ignored and de-criminalized, there is no difference.

Mayor Pete wants to give them reparations, like we don't have other problems to deal with, like the homeless and veterans. Our own citizens should be looked after before one red cent goes to an illegal alien.

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Old 12-21-2019, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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But yes, they do. If illegal border crossings ignored and de-criminalized, there is no difference.

Mayor Pete wants to give them reparations, like we don't have other problems to deal with, like the homeless and veterans. Our own citizens should be looked after before one red cent goes to an illegal alien.
Yes, there is a difference, a BIG difference.

Managed immigration does not equal "open boarders" by any stretch of the imagination.

Why can't you just be honest about that?

Is your position on the way immigration should be handled so weak that you need to use lies to make your case?

The truth is Democrats and Republicans disagree on the exact way immigration should be handled, period.
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Old 12-21-2019, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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Yes, there is a difference, a BIG difference.

Managed immigration does not equal "open boarders" by any stretch of the imagination.

Why can't you just be honest about that?

Is your position on the way immigration should be handled so weak that you need to use lies to make your case?
What lies? I didn't even mention "managed immigration" as you call it. I also never said I was against LEGAL immigration. Obviously you don't know the difference.

As your comprehension is not very high and you have to resort to making stuff up, let me repeat …. there is no difference between ignoring the existing laws and decriminalizing ILLEGAL immigration and having open borders. The end result is the same. What part of that don't you understand?

No matter what you call it, people are crossing our borders ILLEGALLY without consequence or recourse, and that's no lie.
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Old 12-21-2019, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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But yes, they do. If illegal border crossings ignored and de-criminalized, there is no difference.

Mayor Pete wants to give them reparations, like we don't have other problems to deal with, like the homeless and veterans. Our own citizens should be looked after before one red cent goes to an illegal alien.
Cannot rep you again, but agree with you.
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Old 12-21-2019, 03:12 PM
 
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What lies? I didn't even mention "managed immigration" as you call it. I also never said I was against LEGAL immigration. Obviously you don't know the difference.

As your comprehension is not very high and you have to resort to making stuff up, let me repeat …. there is no difference between ignoring the existing laws and decriminalizing ILLEGAL immigration and having open borders. The end result is the same. What part of that don't you understand?

No matter what you call it, people are crossing our borders ILLEGALLY without consequence or recourse, and that's no lie.
She sounds like all leftists that blur the lines between legal and illegal immigration as if they are one and the same. Illegal immigration is not being "managed" it's being allowed to run rampant by mostly the left.

Yes, if you don't agree to good physical barriers on our border, internal enforcement of our immigration laws and want amnesty for millions of illegal aliens you are creating an open borders situation. Hard to believe that they don't realize that and remain in denial instead.
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Old 12-21-2019, 03:21 PM
 
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She sounds like all leftists that blur the lines between legal and illegal immigration as if they are one and the same. Illegal immigration is not being "managed" it's being allowed to run rampant by mostly the left.

Yes, if you don't agree to good physical barriers on our border, internal enforcement of our immigration laws and want amnesty for millions of illegal aliens you are creating an open borders situation. Hard to believe that they don't realize that and remain in denial instead.
Kinda like how you categorize every single Hispanic as illegal. You’re so frothed up you can’t even take it if you hear someone speaking Spanish. Your words have no merit.
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Old 12-21-2019, 04:53 PM
 
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The left completely ignores the sex trafficking & drug trafficking crisis on the southern border, in addition to ignoring the fact that illegal immigration and mass immigration hurts American blue collar workers...which is why many of those blue collar workers voted for Trump in 2016.
Indeed, not to mention many illegal aliens do not come here to work, rather get social services and drain an already strained safety net for our own poor citizens. Hospitals, schools, welfare programs, EMS/police services, prison overcrowding, etc.
Then of course you have minorities most affected by reduced wages and the inability to compete with companies that hire illegals and pay them slave wages (to us), but better than what they can get in their own country.
Then of course that money is sent back to their countries without any benefit to our economy. It is a lose, lose, lose situation for our poor & minorities.


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