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People in cities have to accept they have to work together with people that are very different from themselves and that is what the democrats represent. Tolerance and working together.
Rural and semi-rural people have little enough, directly, to do with other people for their everyday survival so feel like they're going it alone and so should others.
The key word there is "they feel like"....since virtually everything and every service they use in their daily lives was likely provided by or created by or invented by someone in a city......
But if they wear a cowboy hat and boots and drive a Pickup and listen to country music and right wing radio they are convinced they could survive without modern civilization. They can't.
If any of them....many here I am sure....just kept a daily journal for a week of everything they used, bought, consumed, etc.....they would be amazed at the tiny percentage which "they built".
Basically every large city in every state is pretty liberal because those are the places where you can not be one homogenous group and thrive. You kinda have to deal with other groups or go back to where you came from.
I haven't read all the threads here but most in NYC still support public works. Subways, libraries, schools, roads, sewers, street lights, etc. That kind of makes them a bunch of socialists in the eyes of small town, midwest USA, but it's really just survival and taking care of their own.
It's not perfection or true 100% of the time. Nothing ever is and demanding it leads to certain disappointment. Cities by necessity foster circumstances where people of very different views, races, religions etc. have to get along and work together more often than happens in rural areas. Is it in every aspect of life all the time, of course not, but it is a different kinds of people working together in a way you can't get in rural areas because the people there aren't so different from one another. It's kinda seems obvious to me.
By tolerant I mean not accusing those who aren't like you of being perverts, infidels, enemy of the US, etc....
fair enough.
I think they are more tolerant, just not as unified as a smaller community.
Evidently besides racial/ethnic diversity, having a unified community leads to cultural assimilation over time.
The reason NYC has so many different cultures and traditions is because of how separated and segregated the city is.
New York is made up of financial bundlers, advertisment executives, mass media employees, global bankers, tech start-ups, and other high expense ambitious workers looking to make a buck.
No one here has yet explained: how can NYC be considered a left wing / anti-capitalist metropolis when all its people, social division (massive racial segregation), wealth disparity, corporate capital, investment capital, globalized economy, wealthy entrepreneurs are literal shrines to capitalism.
They are the private monopoly and monetary powers republicans praise as 'job-creators'. I hate all of them but why do republicans lie and call it 'left wing'?
California is also similar to NYC. Hollywood, Aerospace, Silicon Valley, Venture Capitalists, BioTech in SD, the military industrial complex all have footprints in CA. Those are all corps.
But CA is uber Dem/Blue. Massive wealth disparity exists there. Many Illegals live there.
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No, think harder.
Why was he wall street's favorite candidate? TARP, the bailouts, cutting the deficit, welfare reform, aggressive foriegn policy, religious support of Israel and Saudi Arabia, etc.
I get Fox News says one thing but he was a die in the wool conservative imperialist.
As a politician, Obama visited Wall Street banks a lot during his term. He needed their support. And it was Republicans like Dubya (GW Bush) that started the Bailouts. I believe Obama did his own version of bailouts. Both sides are in the pocket of the one apparently.
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It is very easy to explain. American liberal leftism is mostly about superficial social fluff, otherwise it is very careful not to interrupt the bottom to top wealth flows. Thus one can seat on two chairs - wealth appropriation and feel good concern about the world and the people (you do not want to be around). It costs almost nothing yet, if one has certain mindset, he feels much better about himself and his contributions to humanity.
One seat on two chairs is essentially a deep state. Everyone thinks there is two powers out there, but are unaware of the single power behind them.
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Welfare is only one small policy.
If New York had anti-capitalist policies, why would so many multinational corporations, business investors, and bankers play ball in that town?
The fact is handouts don't compensate for corporate rule over society and banking authorization of consumer habits.
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Because they attract people who want to live in that kind of leftist progressive atmosphere.
Remember that Chase is shutting down right wing bank accounts. They are taking sides in the gun control debate. They are celebrating diversity.
"Two weeks after Chase Bank announced that it would no longer do business with Proud Boys Chairman Enrique Tarrio, Conservative performance artist and Rebel Media personality Martina Markota has become the latest conservative media figure to be targeted by the bank which has made no secret of its support for liberal causes (see its decision to cut ties with the gun industry)." https://www.infowars.com/chase-bank-...rtina-markota/
Chase has to know supporting the left is not in their best interest business wise unless they are controlled opposition
Normally where you'll find large pools of uneducated, impoverished, malnourished, crime ridden neighborhoods with huge wealth gaps between the rich and the poor...you'll find that they are largely democrat.
Simply put, these large pools tend to be EXTREMELY generous with give ways and handouts, NYC being the King of these types of cities.
You can literally be a bum, do-nothing in NYC and be entitled to free housing, food, healthcare, transportation and education. NYC politicians (take De Blasio for example) are money-pit politicians who are your traditional tax and spend communist liberals.
You mean like California, Chicago and NYC? All those places have big big businesses, and lots of wealthy people too.
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Most Democratically controlled urban areas are leftist, and they keep re-electing the same failures to run the city. NYC was a mess until Rudy cleaned it up (many of my left leaning relatives loved and voted for Rudy).
As to the underfunded Harlem schools, many a liberal hypocrite will say one thing and do another. When De Blasio decided to integrate certain special charter type schools, liberal parents were apoplectic and sounded like people you would expect to hear in the old south of the 1960's.
They had their special carve out, and didn't want "inferior kids" being integrated in under the plan.
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Rudy was Red/Repub by the time he became Mayor of NYC.
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Corporations like social policies that homogenize a population into the global community and promote equality; they want massive population that can be mobilized for the economic needs of the global monetary system which requires a rootless cosmopolitan make-up, even if that means sacrificing some profit.
But that doesn't answer the financial side of the equation, if their economic power and wealth were being dominated by small folk and small businesses, why would they stay? Answer: because NYC policy promotes private equity and realestate speculators who control the working population.
But then what role does the left play for them then?
NYC is the 4th most segregated city in the country. NYC schools are the most segregated schools in the country.
rural people live, work, worship, and attend school with their neighbors. they aren't segregated from others. they experience the problems with increased crime and crowded schools due to illegal immigration. these problems are not academic to them.
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This is completely wrong; places with limited resources require collaboration to survive.
The city economy is based on personal ambition and networking.
I agree on tolerance of other races, but that doesn't mean friendship; NYC is the most segregated place in America.
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It's not perfection or true 100% of the time. Nothing ever is and demanding it leads to certain disappointment. Cities by necessity foster circumstances where people of very different views, races, religions etc. have to get along and work together more often than happens in rural areas. Is it in every aspect of life all the time, of course not, but it is a different kinds of people working together in a way you can't get in rural areas because the people there aren't so different from one another. It's kinda seems obvious to me.
By tolerant I mean not accusing those who aren't like you of being perverts, infidels, enemy of the US, etc....
The economics of NYC is more segregated too. Unless you get to white collar work. Blue collar employment is very segregated.
NYC is strange in that there is a lot of segregation, but also a lot of diversity. There exists multiple various groups with their own section of RE, and employment. For example, the labor pool for 7 Eleven, and Subway Franchises is a homogenous group of South Asian origin. I never see Black, Hispanic, east asian, white working in any of them.
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