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Conservatives want to conserve their existence on this planet. Trump is far from perfect in that respect but he's infinitely better than anyone running against him.
That's how conservatives can like Trump.
You could write in someone you admire, or you could vote for other offices but not for President.
The bolded isn’t a justification for voting for Trump, it’s a rationalization.
Conservatives say that they like family values. Trump is on wife #3, has had affairs, has had severe allegations against him by women, has had affairs with porn stars, uses abusive language, insults half the country routinely, etc...
Actually, Trump regularly insults the entire human race.
You could write in someone you admire, or you could vote for other offices but not for President.
The bolded isn’t a justification for voting for Trump, it’s a rationalization.
It's a reason, and a damn good one.
I couldn't vote for McCain or Romney, so I voted for someone else. In the last 30 years I've voted for Buchanan, Nader, Perot, and others. Trump is making some good things happen. Obviously, Trump has been disappointing on immigration, but at least it's on his radar. Immigration is the most important conservative issue, by far. Everything else conservatives care about depends on stopping the invasion.
You're talking about me and my friends...and you're wrong. But if it makes you feel better to believe this crap, go right ahead.
I didn't elect him to be a nice guy.....but to do a tough job.....the whack jobs on the left are far more disturbing to me.....
It's not so much that you're wrong on most counts.....which you are....what you don't understand, and probably can't, is that we approve of those actions...not because they benefit us, but because they are right.
I don't believe we need their help with anything. They were all in need of a wake-up call anyway.
He could still take those same actions while consistently acting with maturity, exhibiting decency, etc.
He’s not actually a child. He’s a man, and he’s capable of at least trying to exhibit the above, and similar good behavior.
I’m a bit baffled as to why people don’t care about demanding this from him. He didn’t ask to be elected ‘most popular comedian’ or some such. He asked to be the President of the United States. Being the POTUS is a privilege, and he should be giving it his all on every front or let someone else do it.
He could still take those same actions while consistently acting with maturity, exhibiting decency, etc.
He’s not actually a child. He’s a man, and he’s capable of at least trying to exhibit the above, and similar good behavior.
I’m a bit baffled as to why people don’t care about demanding this from him. He didn’t ask to be elected ‘most popular comedian’ or some such. He asked to be the President of the United States. Being the POTUS is a privilege, and he should be giving it his all on every front or let someone else do it.
You're not baffled, at least I hope you're not that ignorant.
Personally, I'd rather have a rough man who picks up a hammer and starts hammering with me than a polite man who has never even seen a hammer, tell me I didn't build anything!
I am not saying anyone is a bad person for voting for Trump and I am not saying anyone is a better person if they don't plan on voting for Trump. There are good people in all parties...and some not so good people in all parties.
I am just wondering why the disconnect...
Conservatives give Trump a high approval rating, but he doesn't seem to follow the values of conservatives. Bigger deficits, bigger government, etc...
Makes sense when he was a Democrat, then a Republican, then a Democrat again, then a Reform Party member, then a Democrat, and then a Republican.
It’s sad really ... you started this post to get answers. There are some great answers as to why but either it’s not sinking in or not the answers you want. Why aren’t you commenting on the feedback?
Conservatives want to conserve their existence on this planet. Trump is far from perfect in that respect but he's infinitely better than anyone running against him.
That's how conservatives can like Trump.
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Originally Posted by RMESMH
You could write in someone you admire, or you could vote for other offices but not for President.
The bolded isn’t a justification for voting for Trump, it’s a rationalization.
Yes, it indeed is, if your goal is to make sure the other person doesn’t win. I assume you will be voting for whoever the Democrat candidate turns out to be, regardless of whatever flaws they have, in an attempt to make sure Trump doesn’t win.
No candidate is perfect, everyone votes for someone who has something about themselves or in their policies that a particular voter doesn’t like. I detest Trump, the man, but I do like most of the policies he has enacted. I really, really like Pete Buttigieg as a person, I find him both highly intelligent and very charming, but some of his proposed policies deeply concern me. I’d rather have my president be a pig whose focus is unapologetic Americans first than a nice guy who gives illegal immigrants reparations, free medical care, and an accelerated path to citizenship. That is just one example, I feel that way on a number of other policy standpoints. It is enough for me that I will vote for someone I would never invite in my home.
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Conservatives say that they like smaller deficits. What has Trump done to help with this? Lower taxes and demand more spending on the military does what exactly to the budget? There are future deficits "baked into the cake" with demographics of age and social security and medicare....which aren't Trump's fault...but does he act to reduce these? No, Trump blows the deficits up larger during a supposed economic boom. What will happen to these deficits when we hit a recession?
Conservatives say that they like family values. Trump is on wife #3, has had affairs, has had severe allegations against him by women, has had affairs with porn stars, uses abusive language, insults half the country routinely, etc...
Conservatives say they want less welfare and less crony-capitalism. Have welfare rules been substantially changed? Have farmers not gotten bigger bailouts than ever.....are these bailouts a form of welfare or a form of crony-capitalism?
Conservatives cheered when Candidate Trump claimed that the FED policy under Obama created economic inequality and an economic bubble. Trump pointed out that the FED balance sheet went up trillions under Obama. Now Trump is demanding that the FED do the exact same things that he said created a bubble under Obama. He wants the FED to increase their balance sheet and push interest rates lower. Why would we need this economic stimulus if the economy was "the greatest ever?"
Conservatives cheered when Trump said that winning trade wars would be easy. How is that going?
Conservatives cheered when Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall. How is the wall going? Is Mexico paying for it?
Why do conservatives like Trump?
Because the alternative is far worse in 2020 and was far worse in 2016.
I agree with you regarding the national debt, Trump has been just as poor here as Obama and everyone else.
Regarding the wall -- any thinking person will not hold Trump responsible for the lack of a wall. That responsibility lies with the illegal immigration loving democrats and the left wing courts, who have blocked everything he's tried to do.
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