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Old 12-23-2019, 09:00 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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I like how people that call others snowflakes are the biggest flakes of all.
you just called that poster a snowflake, making you ‘the biggest flake of all’
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Old 12-23-2019, 09:10 AM
 
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So OP, you're saying Trump should skip the debates because he's so weak he can't handle being questioned by people who aren't in love with him.
No.

Trump should tell the Commission on Presidential Debates that they are not trustworthy and that it is time for them to disband, as they have had their time and no longer serve any honorable purpose.

Then he should offer to have his campaign team negotiate debates directly with the Democrat nominee's campaign team. There would be debates. The would just not be biased in favor of the Democrats right from the start.

If that is too scary for the nominee for the Democrats, then I guess we do not have to have them.
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Old 12-23-2019, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Cancelling debates altogether is not what the President is proposing. He is proposing not participating in the debates organized by the partisan Commission on Presidential Debates, which is smart.

Instead, there can be debates organized by the two campaigns directly, according to whatever terms and arrangements that they can mutually agree on.

Whatever those terms are, it will not be a process dictated and controlled by the Democrat left mass media and the affiliated partisan hacks at the Commission on Presidential debates.
Yep - the media no longer dictates things their way.
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Old 12-23-2019, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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No.

Trump should tell the Commission on Presidential Debates that they are not trustworthy and that it is time for them to disband, as they have had their time and no longer serve any honorable purpose.

Then he should offer to have his campaign team negotiate debates directly with the Democrat nominee's campaign team. There would be debates. The would just not be biased in favor of the Democrats right from the start.

If that is too scary for the nominee for the Democrats, then I guess we do not have to have them.

The Dem Homer Refs have to be addressed just as the lying with every breath have to be challenged with their lies. The Deplorables demand a more honest and fair approach from the refs and lying media.
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Old 12-23-2019, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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you use the word 'fascist.' What is your definition of 'fascist?'
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Putinesque. Traditional fascist economics and strongman tactics to get and keep power. Notice all his bestest best buddies are strongmen type leaders. None of those weak kneed democracy types. Military parade anybody?
That is not a definition. A definition defines, i.e. lays out principles of an ideology. For example if I said that 'socialism' is defined as 'Bernie-esque' or 'AOC-esque' that would not tell you anything. The actual definition of 'socialism' is 'government ownership of the means of production.'

When part of your definition of 'fascist' includes '[t]additional fascist economics" it should be a clue that you are chasing your own tail.

Stalin, Hitler, FDR, and Lincoln could all fairly be called "strongmen type leaders.' LBJ definitely could be called that. Were they all 'fascists?' According to your 'definition' the answer would have to be yes.

The word 'fascist' was coined by Benito Mussolini. His words and writings ought to be used to supply the definition.
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Old 12-23-2019, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Trump Must Skip Presidential Debates, Create His Own
Debate requires skills. Much easier to rave on your own.
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Old 12-23-2019, 11:34 AM
 
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That is not a definition. A definition defines, i.e. lays out principles of an ideology. For example if I said that 'socialism' is defined as 'Bernie-esque' or 'AOC-esque' that would not tell you anything. The actual definition of 'socialism' is 'government ownership of the means of production.'

When part of your definition of 'fascist' includes '[t]additional fascist economics" it should be a clue that you are chasing your own tail.

Stalin, Hitler, FDR, and Lincoln could all fairly be called "strongmen type leaders.' LBJ definitely could be called that. Were they all 'fascists?' According to your 'definition' the answer would have to be yes.

The word 'fascist' was coined by Benito Mussolini. His words and writings ought to be used to supply the definition.

Ok, do you like strongman crony capitalism better? Look at Putin or Mussolini for that matter. Their bestest best buddies (oligarchs) own natural resources and means of production and as long as they support the grand dictator, they get to keep their ill gotten gains and favored treatment. The govt supports them, they support the govt and vice versa. Nazism is small subset of fascism. Fascism is an actual economic system. A **** poor one, but it exists and its not socialism or communism. The Nazis using "Socialist" in their official name was ironic. They sent actual Socialists and Communists to gas chamber along with the Jews and Gypsies and any other group that openly disagreed with them. Bernie is nowhere close to an actual socialist, he is what Europeans call a Social Democrat. Otherwise known as a capitalist with a heart. Nearly all American politicians are right wing authoritarian, some just more extreme right wing than others. Actual Socialists and Communists tend to be left wing authoritarian. A few borderline middle of road like Bernie. We dont have actual SOCIALISTS or COMMUNISTS in American politics. We also have darn few libertarian (small "l") whether left or right. Of course my sympathies lie with left wing libertarians, a political view rarely seen anywhere in the world.
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Old 12-23-2019, 11:44 AM
 
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Trump Must Skip Presidential Debates, Create His Own

An honest debate with anyone would expose him as the fraud he is, Trump knows it and he's afraid.
Bingo. It really is that simple.

All of the dem presidential candidates would talk circles around Trump when it comes to the issues. They have in-depth knowledge and understanding of how the economy, government, healthcare, and military works. Donald Trump doesn't have a friggin' clue as to how any of that stuff works.

In his three years as president, NOT ONCE has Donald Trump spoken off the cuff in detail about any major issue, because he doesn't know anything. He's an idiot. All Trump can say is "very very good" or "very very bad," and that's about it. He doesn't understand any of the extremely complex issues, or does he care to learn and try to understand them.

When asked about a complex issue facing our country, Trump usually responds with "we're doing a great job." Huh? A little detail or context maybe, Donny?

Trump's favorite part of being president is being able to rant in front of thousands of his supporters at his rallies where they worship him and laugh at all his jokes. Outside of that, he doesn't really give a crap.
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Old 12-23-2019, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Boston
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It might be something for Trump to consider, conditional on the a CNN contributor handing him the questions before the debate. Donna Brazile available?
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Old 12-23-2019, 12:02 PM
 
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Debate requires skills. Much easier to rave on your own.
This. Any of the democrats currently running would run circles around Trump, not a chance Donny could keep up. I'm not sure Trump could string two logical sentences together when talking about the complexities of the economy or medicaid.

Trump and his senior aides are well aware that, if he had to debate Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders on complex American issues with the entire country watching, Donald would be humiliated.

So it sounds like far-right conservatives are already introducing ideas that could prevent Trump from having to engage in presidential debates. Any historians around here? Has that ever happened before? A candidate not participating in the presidential debates????

And if Trump supporters are okay with Trump choosing not to do any debates for 2020, I'm sure they would've been totally okay if Obama had done the same in 2012.
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