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View Poll Results: Should people be forced to pay for other's health care, etc?
No 116 65.91%
Yes with no expectations of work in return 35 19.89%
Yes, if they perform community service 5 2.84%
No. Doctors and nurses should be required to work free for one year after training 0 0%
Other 22 12.50%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 176. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-29-2019, 11:12 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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Why do you always say "pay for your expenses"? That's a disingenuous way to frame the argument and strawman the poster your debating with
It would really help if she'd disclose her income. It's likely she is arguing with people who pay more than she does in the first place.
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Old 12-29-2019, 11:15 AM
 
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Is Trump not corrupt to you?
No one is all bad or all good. Some of our elected officials think he is corrupt and have impeached him. The democratic system will decide. I personally think he is corrupt but let’s see how my elected officials vote. I do not get a vote on this topic so whatever I think doesn’t really count.
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Old 12-29-2019, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Are living expenses, food cost, child rearing, education, healthcare and sexual entertainment not expenses you should be responsible for?
Healthcare should be a shared cost among the population as it's necessary at some point in everyone's life.

As far as education, working class people can't afford private school, so without public school, their kids wouldn't get educated. And we need an educated populace.

Child rearing, as far as WIC and TANF, I don't believe in punishing children for the sins of their parents. Same goes for education.

And where do you come up with sexual entertainment? Are you talking about prostitution? Sex is free last time I checked
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Old 12-29-2019, 11:19 AM
 
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Are living expenses, food cost, child rearing, education, healthcare and sexual entertainment not expenses you should be responsible for?
There is a basic level that I believe is a human right. If you can not wholly meet that low bar than the greater society should pick up that cost. Obv you don’t believe that and that’s ok. Right now in the us that’s the way it works. It works that way in pretty much every country. I think it’s a good thing. You don’t. Your allowed to feel that way but that is the law right now and if you don’t pay your taxes you are breaking the law.
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Old 12-29-2019, 11:21 AM
 
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Healthcare should be a shared cost among the population as it's necessary at some point in everyone's life.

As far as education, working class people can't afford private school, so without public school, their kids wouldn't get educated. And we need an educated populace.

Child rearing, as far as WIC and TANF, I don't believe in punishing children for the sins of their parents. Same goes for education.

And where do you come up with sexual entertainment? Are you talking about prostitution? Sex is free last time I checked
Sexual entertainment means you “accidentally” conceive a baby.
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Old 12-29-2019, 11:22 AM
 
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By need to, you mean “need to be forced to”, correct?
Yes. The government forces you to pay taxes.
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Old 12-29-2019, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Sexual entertainment means you “accidentally” conceive a baby.
That's a funny and slanted way to put it.

I support either abortion, or financial assistance if the woman decides to keep the baby. But it's her choice, not yours
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Old 12-29-2019, 11:23 AM
 
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There is a basic level that I believe is a human right. If you can not wholly meet that low bar than the greater society should pick up that cost. Obv you don’t believe that and that’s ok. Right now in the us that’s the way it works. It works that way in pretty much every country. I think it’s a good thing. You don’t. Your allowed to feel that way but that is the law right now and if you don’t pay your taxes you are breaking the law.
Just like every slave master.
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Old 12-29-2019, 11:24 AM
 
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That's a funny and slanted way to put it.

I support either abortion, or financial assistance if the woman decides to keep the baby. But it's her choice, not yours
Hence your support for people’s sexual entertainment.
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Old 12-29-2019, 11:26 AM
 
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Sexual entertainment means you “accidentally” conceive a baby.
Huh, Isnt sexual entertainment mostly done on line these days.
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