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Short summary - Americans are LESS "fearful" of immigration as Trump and his "30% base" become more rabid toward it. The VAST majority of Americans support paths to citizenship and approve of immigrants and immigration.
If this polling is correct - and it does align with many others - selling hate in 2020 will be just a tad more difficult. Sure, the certain CD crowd who are Trump followers will never change, but polls are showing that they haven't grown in numbers...and, in fact, they have shrunken.
Of course, I don't expect white nationalists to believe these polls. That's a given.
"people who rejected racial stereotypes were more interested in voting in the 2020 general election than those who expressed stronger levels of anti-black or anti-Hispanic biases.
In 2016, it was the reverse. The Reuters analysis shows that Trump’s narrow win came at a time when Americans with strong anti-black opinions were the more politically engaged group"
The vast majority want immigration laws enforced. You left out “illegal”. Immigrants are legal. Illegal aliens are not immigrants. That’s disrespectful to immigrants that respect our immigration laws. Illegal aliens don’t respect our immigration laws. Those politicians that ignore immigration laws and fight for illegal aliens/law breakers should be arrested and prosecuted. This is all common sense stuff.
Give it a rest already. Where are all those people who claim to want to provide a path for citizenship for illegals? No one asked me and I don't know anyone who was asked such a question. How was the question framed? Was it a loaded question that read something like: "It will cost X numbers of dollars to round up every illegal alien. Giving them a path to citizenship will cost X dollars less. Do you support giving illegals a path to citizenship?"
Then you deliberately blur the lines between legal immigrants and illegal aliens by saying "Americans are less fearful of immigrants". Legal immigrants obeyed our immigration laws and patiently awaited their turn to come here. Illegal immigration is a slap in the face to those who obeyed our immigration laws.
For you to take one poll and crow that the majority wants to give illegals amnesty is laughable. Who are these clueless people who support this nonsense?
And think about it for a minute, will you? How are illegals paying taxes? Answer: they use stolen IDs (which is a felony) or fake SSNs. That fake SSN could well belong to a living person who then gets put into a world of hurt like the ID theft victim. The SSA won't tell you if someone else is using your SSN. You only find out when the IRS comes after you for back taxes for a job you never worked.
As for Reagan and amnesty---who are those 67% who love that he passed amnesty? I was no fan of Reagan. He was foolish enough to trust the democrats when they promised him that it would be the one and only amnesty ever (we have since had several stealth amnesties); that illegals will never be able to work again (currently, we have 8 million no-match SSNs in the workforce); and our borders would be secured (every single day, illegals sneak into this country).
Anyway, back to the topic at hand --- You dems claim to be "woke". Then why haven't you become "woke" to the fact that dems now put illegal aliens ahead of the millions of suffering underemployed and unemployed Americans? Today's dems are not your grandfather's democrats. Those democrats of yore would have been truly horrified to discover that their constituents (poor, working and middle class) were either seeing their wages depressed or were being displaced in the workforce due to illegal immigration. And those dems would have done something about it---and I don't mean amnesty.
Neither party is looking out for us. However, there was a time that democrats could be counted on to always come through for Americans. Today's dems must be laughing themselves sick when they think about how many people they have duped into still believing that they care about them.
Democrats are trying to replace the black American vote with immigrants-Hispanic/latino votes. There are banking on the children of illegals to become Democrat voters in 18+ years. They have completely abandoned black voters and want nothing to do with a black agenda.
Where this will fall apart is many of these immigrants become republican once they get here. They are going to mess around and create a new wing of the republican party and it'll all backfire, and they'll still blame black people as crazy as that sounds. They'll blame black people because black people tend to make democrat politicians "cooler" to other voters like they did for Obama. The problem is Obama was the last straw for many black as we didn't get anything out of that. So when they trot out someone like Kamala and they just expected black people to make her "hip" it's not working anymore.
And Kammy is a fake black anyway.
Kamala Devi Harris was born on October 20, 1964 in Oakland, California. Her mother, Shyamala Gopalan, was a Tamil Indian breast-cancer scientist who immigrated to the United States from Madras, India, in 1960 to pursue a doctorate in endocrinology at the University of California, Berkeley (UC Berkeley).[4][5] Her father, Donald Harris, is a Stanford University economics professor who emigrated from Jamaica in 1961 for graduate study in economics at UC Berkeley.[6][7] Harris has one younger sister, Maya Harris.[8][9] Her mother chose to give them both Sanskrit names derived from Hindu mythology to help preserve their cultural identity.[10] She is also a descendant of a slave owner from Jamaica https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris
Funny I never heard reference to any of that from the lamestream media-not-news.
Many politicians like to give tales of woe as to how they grew up in dire poverty, wearing rags to school and being made fun of because they had no shoes.
I must say of all the CPUSA stringers so far, Kammy had by far the meanest face. She did some real dirt to many poor blacks, she seemed to enjoy sending people to prison. Many innocent.
Not exactly news for a prosecutor, but still not very nice and compassionate and caring as she'd have you believe.
We have a problem with undocumented aliens. The southern border issue is only about half of it and diminishing. We will never stop illegal immigration so get that idea out of your skull. Separating families and putting kids in cages is Trump's theatrical solution...a reality show for immigrants and a feel-good sop to his base. It makes no difference nor will his wall. We will not deport all undocumented aliens, nor do we want to. Greedy employers like them and that is why there is no enforceable e-verify. We have already made a commitment to 'Dreamers'. Any bandaid solution such as the wall, citizen ID cards, and e-verify will be effective maybe 90 days at the most. The only lasting solution is (1) proper control and monitoring of visas for visitors, and (2) reform and economic development in Central America to make those places livable and productive in their own right.
Democrats are not supporting illegal immigration but they recognize the reality of the situation much more than Trump-Republicans do. If we think we have an immigration problem now, wait until we see climate change refugees.
BS..... half a million in FY18 at the border. Many years before that, close to a million...for years. And that's only those that they apprehended! Keep believing what you want. You are the problem and will stay the problem. You refuse to even consider any facts except for those that suit your narrative. Why bother participating on a forum when you obviously know it all. If you're attempting to sway others to your side, you are failing with your dogmatic approach. Or maybe you just like to hear yourself ramble on...? I dunno, but I'm done engaging someone like you.....
How many undocumented immigrants are in the United States and who are they?
Who are the undocumented?
Immigrants from Mexico have recently, for the first time since 1990, represented less than half of the undocumented population. According to Pew, in 2017, about 4.95 million of the 10.5 million undocumented population were from Mexico, 1.9 million from Central America, and 1.45 million from Asia. About two-thirds of undocumented immigrants have been in the U.S. for 10 years or longer. In 2017, just 20% of undocumented, adult immigrants had lived in the U.S. for 5 years or less.
In contrast to the President Trump’s rhetoric about building a wall at the Mexican border, illegal migration has shifted since 2010 from border-crossing to visa overstays—the latter share has been greater than border crossings since 2010. The Center for Migration Studies estimates that in 2016, 62% of the undocumented were here because they overstayed their visas versus 38% who crossed the border illegally.
Another controversy is over how much illegal immigrants cost the system. An often overlooked fact is that illegal immigrants are taxpayers. The anti-immigrant lobby tends to ignore the money the immigrants often pay in payroll and sales taxes while counting the money spent on educating children born in the United States to immigrants. Numbers vary widely depending on the source, but undocumented immigrants are not eligible for most federal benefit programs, like the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. In evaluating the cost of illegal immigration, the voter has to make sure that the argument takes in both benefits consumed and taxes paid. https://www.brookings.edu/policy2020...-who-are-they/
Give it a rest already. Where are all those people who claim to want to provide a path for citizenship for illegals? No one asked me and I don't know anyone who was asked such a question. How was the question framed? Was it a loaded question that read something like: "It will cost X numbers of dollars to round up every illegal alien. Giving them a path to citizenship will cost X dollars less. Do you support giving illegals a path to citizenship?"
Then you deliberately blur the lines between legal immigrants and illegal aliens by saying "Americans are less fearful of immigrants". Legal immigrants obeyed our immigration laws and patiently awaited their turn to come here. Illegal immigration is a slap in the face to those who obeyed our immigration laws.
For you to take one poll and crow that the majority wants to give illegals amnesty is laughable. Who are these clueless people who support this nonsense?
And think about it for a minute, will you? How are illegals paying taxes? Answer: they use stolen IDs (which is a felony) or fake SSNs. That fake SSN could well belong to a living person who then gets put into a world of hurt like the ID theft victim. The SSA won't tell you if someone else is using your SSN. You only find out when the IRS comes after you for back taxes for a job you never worked.
As for Reagan and amnesty---who are those 67% who love that he passed amnesty? I was no fan of Reagan. He was foolish enough to trust the democrats when they promised him that it would be the one and only amnesty ever (we have since had several stealth amnesties); that illegals will never be able to work again (currently, we have 8 million no-match SSNs in the workforce); and our borders would be secured (every single day, illegals sneak into this country).
Anyway, back to the topic at hand --- You dems claim to be "woke". Then why haven't you become "woke" to the fact that dems now put illegal aliens ahead of the millions of suffering underemployed and unemployed Americans? Today's dems are not your grandfather's democrats. Those democrats of yore would have been truly horrified to discover that their constituents (poor, working and middle class) were either seeing their wages depressed or were being displaced in the workforce due to illegal immigration. And those dems would have done something about it---and I don't mean amnesty.
Neither party is looking out for us. However, there was a time that democrats could be counted on to always come through for Americans. Today's dems must be laughing themselves sick when they think about how many people they have duped into still believing that they care about them.
Common sense and logic are highly underrated. Those that support this illegal invasion and want to ignore our existing immigration laws are traitors. The system isn’t broken. It simply needs to be enforced. Has always worked great.
How many undocumented immigrants are in the United States and who are they?
Who are the undocumented?
Immigrants from Mexico have recently, for the first time since 1990, represented less than half of the undocumented population. According to Pew, in 2017, about 4.95 million of the 10.5 million undocumented population were from Mexico, 1.9 million from Central America, and 1.45 million from Asia. About two-thirds of undocumented immigrants have been in the U.S. for 10 years or longer. In 2017, just 20% of undocumented, adult immigrants had lived in the U.S. for 5 years or less.
In contrast to the President Trump’s rhetoric about building a wall at the Mexican border, illegal migration has shifted since 2010 from border-crossing to visa overstays—the latter share has been greater than border crossings since 2010. The Center for Migration Studies estimates that in 2016, 62% of the undocumented were here because they overstayed their visas versus 38% who crossed the border illegally.
Another controversy is over how much illegal immigrants cost the system. An often overlooked fact is that illegal immigrants are taxpayers. The anti-immigrant lobby tends to ignore the money the immigrants often pay in payroll and sales taxes while counting the money spent on educating children born in the United States to immigrants. Numbers vary widely depending on the source, but undocumented immigrants are not eligible for most federal benefit programs, like the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. In evaluating the cost of illegal immigration, the voter has to make sure that the argument takes in both benefits consumed and taxes paid. https://www.brookings.edu/policy2020...-who-are-they/
Per the bolded --- I see you completely ignored my post above. If you had read it, then you would have noticed that I explained how illegals pay taxes. I'll explain yet again. They use stolen IDs (which is a felony) or they use a fake SSN. That fake SSN could well belong to a living person who, like the ID theft victim, gets put into a world of hurt. There are 8 million no-match SSNs in the workforce. If someone else is using your SSN, the SSA won't tell you. You only find out if the IRS comes after you for not filing taxes on a job you never worked. Do you have any idea as to how much money and heartache ID theft victims go through? Think about that before you are tempted to crow about illegals paying taxes.
As for sales taxes---Gimme a break! Everybody has to pay that when shopping---even tourists.
Illegals are parasites who take far, far more than they give:
Think for a minute --- Who do you think pays for it when they birth an anchor baby? Who do you think pays for it every time they use the ER as their personal physician? Answer: the American taxpayers.
Who do you think pays for the education of their children? Don't say that illegals pay for it with the meager rent they pay to live in a flophouse. Where I live, a house has to be assessed at $1 million before the yearly property taxes cover the education of one child.
Yeah, illegal aliens (not "undocumented immigrants", that's just a euphemism) supposedly don't collect welfare (you're naive if you think they don't get it through welfare fraud) but once they birth an anchor baby, said child is eligible for all sorts of freebies and the whole family benefits from that, like getting Section 8 housing.
Oh, and your remarks about the wall --- Just because supposedly illegal border crossings are down doesn't mean we should leave the borders wide open
I thought that all you liberals are "woke". Definitely many of your are asleep at the wheel.
Not particularly left wing. Just would like to see the problem fixed. The right does not have any rational plan to do so. That is the truth even though some of you find it unpleasant.
It is unfortunate that the right has gotten so far from the truth.
And yes we need to fix this before it gets worse.
But your only 'fix' is to make everybody legal.......?
The Center for Migration Studies estimates that in 2016, 62% of the undocumented were here because they overstayed their visas versus 38% who crossed the border illegally.
The CMS is a far left, pro illegal immigrant organization, whose numbers mean absolutely NOTHING.
Even if there were some truth to that theory, which I suppose there is..., 850,000 people - last year- apprehended crossing the border is waaaaay too much. And that doesn't count the ones that got through. another huge number.
So let's agree - get all of the crooks who overstayed their visas, boot them out, and keep building the wall to keep the rest out. Not too hard, eh?
Tom Fazio designed the course, and his company - or one he subcontracted - likely built the course.
Still, golf course maintenance, landscapers, and builders are certainly thought to be heavy employers of illegals.
What should the government do to stop this? Send out inspectors for random surprise checks? Double check payrolls against the number of employees, and put all those employees through e-Verify or immigration check?
Should we temporarily double or triple the size of ICE, and have them go into every business in America to root out the illegals, and fine the business owners who knowingly or negligently employ illegals?
It's a possible solution. They might even reach critical mass and we'd suddenly see a lot of correction after the first 20% of businesses were raided.
That would be a good start.
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