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Old 12-30-2019, 03:25 PM
 
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That's what the A-10 uses in its 30mm GAU-8 rotary cannon to defeat tank armor. Also works on ANTIFA, BLM, Mexican Cartels, VA politicians........
I know, but it is a military round for 25mm weapons and up. The use of the term in regards to civilian weapons made me lol, since travis t does have that penchant for using the scariest word combos possible with gun discussions.

Super armor piercing depleted uranium hollowpoint super shock death bullets of doom....those should be banned.
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Old 12-30-2019, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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The teens shouldn't have broken into someone else's property. They brought this on themselves.
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Old 12-31-2019, 06:52 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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And what if you miss the face shot with 20 gauge buckshot when it's charging at you at 30 +mph?

You really think you'll have time for a second shot?

Lots of what if's.

Then you should not own a firearm at all, much less being out in the Bear woods and mother nature has her way over the weak.
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Old 12-31-2019, 07:06 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Back in the day, the media was calling them cop killers too.

https://youtu.be/S8mpPwChYFk.

(From guns.com)

"Black Talon bullets were coated in a black molybdenum disulfide, otherwise known as Lubalox, (not Teflon as was reported over and over again throughout the 90s). When the bullet expanded it formed six petals with perpendicular tips. After they were used in the 101 California Street Shootings and then the Long Island Railroad shooting, both in 1993, the media and those in office wasted little time in going after the Black Talon ammunition, now bearing the “cop killer” label.

The media frenzy made the bullets out to be so bad that it seemed a person could not survive any wound sustained by these projectiles—they would rip huge chunks out tissue and bone right out of your body. By the end of 1993, Winchester had pulled the Black Talon ammunition off the market as the company caved in to the hysteria surrounding the scandal. There was never any real proof that these bullets kill cops deader than other bullets but those at Winchester realized they were on the losing end of the battle."
Only the name and Lubalox coating was pulled from the market. The sabot is still available today from Winchester, in their Ranger SXT(Same Exact Thing) series.
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Old 12-31-2019, 07:07 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The point is that “Cop Killer” relates to armor penetration, not hollow point design.
The coating allowed penetration through Kevlar.
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Old 12-31-2019, 08:02 AM
 
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The coating allowed penetration through Kevlar.
No it didn’t. That’s a myth perpetuated by the ignorant.
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Old 12-31-2019, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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No it didn’t. That’s a myth perpetuated by the ignorant.


Whether it actually did or not is irrelevant.

It media's mistaken notion that it was Teflon or Teflon like coating definitely contributed to why it got called a "cop killer" round.
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Old 12-31-2019, 08:30 AM
 
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Whether it actually did or not is irrelevant.

It media's mistaken notion that it was Teflon or Teflon like coating definitely contributed to why it got called a "cop killer" round.
/agree

Media lies, Hollywood fictions and political agendas are the scary stories that are meant to get the people to disarm themselves out of fear of the boogeyman. Leviathan knows any legit attempt to simply take firearms away by force will end badly for them, so there has been a push since the Gangster Era of the 1930s to scare you into not even wanting firearms in the first place.

Teflon coated "cop killer" bullets are just one of literally countless examples of false narratives meant to terrify people away from their own natural rights.

Top examples of this would be:
  • Suppressors being referred to, even now in the era of YouTube constantly debunking it, as "silencers" as if a 20-25 db reduction to slightly below the threshold of pain makes a firearm whisper silent for that secret army of ninja murderers who sneak around on their killing sprees in total silence...
  • Any accessory for any weapon labeled military, military style or milspec, as if the addition of black paint, optics or a barrel shroud that is military in appearance actually changes the engineered ballistic performance of the weapon itself into some science fiction weapon of doom.
  • The phrase "fully semiautomatic" that implies semiauto is really full auto, which implicitly links to the fiction of automatic weapons having unlimited ammunition and firing rates of like 3 million rounds per second.
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Old 12-31-2019, 08:44 AM
 
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AR15 for home protection?
Yep. Big-time. You're obviously not a gun guy....?
https://gundigest.com/article/why-an...he-best-choice
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Old 12-31-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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The stereotypical unkempt, beer swilling, tabacco juice dribbling down a ragged beard, dressed in second hand BDU pants and flannel shirt with cutoff sleeves, brandishing an AR 15 with a Confederate battle flag behind him on the plywood patched siding of a crappy single wide sort.
Hey, where did you get that picture of me...?
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