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They may have gone to prison as "low-level" criminals but their years there made them into sociopaths lacking the skills to contribute productively. Mistakes may have been made, but that is no reason to make more by releasing these hardened criminals into civil society.
By that reasoning, we should never let anyone out of prison for the rest of their lives. Including people who have been exonerated.
As I understand it, the people are taking legislation into their own hands because the people they elected won’t.
You evidently don't understand it at all...
The governor - an elected official - pardoned people who were convicted in the past for something that is no longer a crime. In other words, the elected officials changed the law and the governor - the one elected by the people - went along.
("People taking legislation into their own hands"!...)
Only a Democrat could come up with something that sophomoric.
You evidently don't understand it at all...
The governor - an elected official - pardoned people who were convicted in the past for something that is no longer a crime. In other words, the elected officials changed the law and the governor - the one elected by the people - went along.
("People taking legislation into their own hands"!...)
Only a Democrat could come up with something that sophomoric.
You definitely dislike the poster you replied to and probably see all Democrats as sophomoric.... But it will free full prisons again for now non-criminal possession. From the cost of holding these far from hardened criminals paying many hundreds a day to house them.
Also it frees up their bunks for more hardened criminals ......
You know, part of that is almost true. I truly dislike stoners and see them as a blight on society.
Stoner culture, as you call it, is a real thing. And it is not a worthwhile thing.
But "hatred"? Nah. I am perfectly able to be opposed to a thing and to vote against it without hating anyone.
Thats ridiculous, you personally disagree with those who decide to use drugs...so your opinion is that drug laws are a good thing and need to remain in place!!!
Reminds me of people in the pre civil rights era that believed in and supported the old Jim Crow laws they truly thought those laws were the right thing to do and they were good people for supporting them!
It is sickening. These people knowingly and willingly broke the law. It is irrelevant that the substances are now legal. What is relevant is these people have criminal natures and it directly reflects on their character, their ability to serve honestly on juries, and directly harms future employers. What this does is breed further lawlessness. What matter the rule of law anymore? In Illinois it has stood for nothing for decades as evidenced by the state's corruption. Illinois is a cesspool.
Do you not understand that the drug laws themselves are benefiting the criminals?!
How do you feel, knowing the brutal drug cartels have the same opinion on drug laws as you do, they want all drugs to remain illegal as much as you do!
I guess you must like it the way it the way it is, drug cartels shipping drugs into the US and addicts gobbling them up as fast as they can ship them...if you support drug laws, THIS is what you are endorsing.
A Democratic ran state arrested, prosecuted, and sentenced these people, but yet now you say the Democratic party is the only party interested in righting the injustices?
So it is just to you, that a would employer who would not knowingly hire a person who knowingly and willingly violated the law will now have the wool pulled over their eyes and no longer be able to count on the justice system to identify criminals. This is not trivial. It is very problematic for cash businesses. It is one thing for an employer to knowingly hire an ex-offender, it is entirely another to hide that fact from a would be employer.
Going by some of your posts it sounds like you are EXTREMELY anti-American...One of the founding principles of the US justice system is the second chance, once a person pays their debt to society, they are free and clear to start over and become a productive member of the community.
I would not move to the US if I were you, sounds like you are comfortable living under a brutal dictatorship and you would not like America or many of its founding principles.
You evidently don't understand it at all...
The governor - an elected official - pardoned people who were convicted in the past for something that is no longer a crime. In other words, the elected officials changed the law and the governor - the one elected by the people - went along.
("People taking legislation into their own hands"!...)
Only a Democrat could come up with something that sophomoric.
People taking legislation into their own hands? YES, of course, it's true! Whether you can understand it or not, that is how legislation sometimes works in Oklahoma when Republican legislators want nothing to do with bringing it about. Passage of Oklahoma State Question 780 in 2016 meant drug possession was decriminalized from felonies. Elected officials had nothing to do with putting it on the ballot. That later led to the biggest one day release from prison ever in the country.
State Question 788 legalized medical marijuana in Oklahoma. It came about purely from the grassroots level. Republican state legislators wanted absolutely nothing to do with it. After SQ788 was passed, they still wanted nothing to do with it, and so did not call for a special legislative session to deal with it. Instead, they let the state health department deal with instigation as the question instructed. So it's true in some states people get so fed up with government inaction that they have to resort to literally take legislation into their own hands.
The next way Oklahomans have taken legislation into their own hands is getting people to vote yes this year for more Medicaid dollars from the Feds, yet, another issue Republican state legislators want nothing to do with.
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That Illinois became the 11th state to legalize recreational marijuana takes second fiddle to the intent to reverse hundreds of thousands of non- violent convictions for possession of small quantities of marijuana.
I agree with that obvious statement.
I addressed both of those points in this thread after they were brought up in discussion by another poster.
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But it will free full prisons again for now non-criminal possession. From the cost of holding these far from hardened criminals paying many hundreds a day to house them. 
I am perfectly able to be opposed to a thing and to vote against it without hating anyone.
