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US troops are now not only at risk from Iran, but an Israeli false flag on the US ala USS Liberty. Iran gets blame, war gets escalated. Bring them home.
Best post yet. Accurately sums up why we are there in the first place!
Thanks, and just wanted to add, should we pull out, Iran and Saudi Arabia might go to war for control of the entire region, I think Iran would make the first move. If they went to war, I can easily see a scenario where there is great damage to the oil infrastructure of Saudi, and Iran, and possible damage to many other OPEC countries whom get drawn into the conflict. There could be a world wide oil shortage almost overnight, which would bring recession and panic all over the world. The remaining oil producing countries could not increase production enough to make up the difference, it would be a long term disaster for any oil dependent country, including China, who may wish to pick a side in an Middle East conflict, and use their military to intervene and secure oil for themselves. The whole region is one big grab bag, if the US does nothing.
The president Iran elected, Mosaddegh in the early 50's was a dummy and a loser, he was about to be disposed, either internally or externally, unless he sided with the Russians and got help from them to prop him up. Their experiment with democracy was just about dead before it even started, the whole country was slipping into panic and chaos, and on the way to becoming a new Soviet satellite state. A new strong man or Soviet puppet was about to be introduced, I think the CIA, Eisenhower, and Churchill all came to the same conclusion, that it might as well be our guy, it was a cold war play that worked. The economy had collapsed because Mosaddegh would not deal with Britain, he nationalized English oil production and they enforced a world wide boycott on Iranian oil, sending the economy into a tailspin. The new Shah, a product of France and gift from the CIA, knew how to play ball, and eventually did more for Iran than any other leader in modern history. He was a sharp operator and understood the West, and had spent much time in France.
Israel is not exactly out of the picture either, should the US want to withdraw from the region. They have something all the neighbors want, nukes, and a good air force. This is a pretty good deterrent to attacking Israel, and the memory of the 1967 and 1973 wars as a little reminder to Iran or the Saudi's, to leave them out of their conquest plans, else Israel might make conquest plans of their own.
Thanks, and just wanted to add, should we pull out, Iran and Saudi Arabia might go to war for control of the entire region, I think Iran would make the first move. If they went to war, I can easily see a scenario where there is great damage to the oil infrastructure of Saudi, and Iran, and possible damage to many other OPEC countries whom get drawn into the conflict. There could be a world wide oil shortage almost overnight, which would bring recession and panic all over the world. The remaining oil producing countries could not increase production enough to make up the difference, it would be a long term disaster for any oil dependent country, including China, who may wish to pick a side in an Middle East conflict, and use their military to intervene and secure oil for themselves. The whole region is one big grab bag, if the US does nothing.
The president Iran elected, Mosaddegh in the early 50's was a dummy and a loser, he was about to be disposed, either internally or externally, unless he sided with the Russians and got help from them to prop him up. Their experiment with democracy was just about dead before it even started, the whole country was slipping into panic and chaos, and on the way to becoming a new Soviet satellite state. A new strong man or Soviet puppet was about to be introduced, I think the CIA, Eisenhower, and Churchill all came to the same conclusion, that it might as well be our guy, it was a cold war play that worked. The economy had collapsed because Mosaddegh would not deal with Britain, he nationalized English oil production and they enforced a world wide boycott on Iranian oil, sending the economy into a tailspin. The new Shah, a product of France and gift from the CIA, knew how to play ball, and eventually did more for Iran than any other leader in modern history. He was a sharp operator and understood the West, and had spent much time in France.
Israel is not exactly out of the picture either, should the US want to withdraw from the region. They have something all the neighbors want, nukes, and a good air force. This is a pretty good deterrent to attacking Israel, and the memory of the 1967 and 1973 wars as a little reminder to Iran or the Saudi's, to leave them out of their conquest plans, else Israel might make conquest plans of their own.
Wow, I have read some spin, but you take it to a whole other level, lol.
Wow, I have read some spin, but you take it to a whole other level, lol.
His take is not too bright since the Israelis and the Saudis have been allies for a long time.
Islamic extremism is merely a red herring to distract from the many governments who have designs on the resources in the areas. In the end, these stateless mercenary forces, such as Al Qaeda, Islamic State, etc. require advanced logistics to keep them supplied and to position them at the various locations around the world. Only governments' militaries can provide them with that kind of support as well as command & control to fight against modern armies and air support.
Thanks, and just wanted to add, should we pull out, Iran and Saudi Arabia might go to war for control of the entire region, I think Iran would make the first move. If they went to war, I can easily see a scenario where there is great damage to the oil infrastructure of Saudi, and Iran, and possible damage to many other OPEC countries whom get drawn into the conflict. There could be a world wide oil shortage almost overnight, which would bring recession and panic all over the world. The remaining oil producing countries could not increase production enough to make up the difference, it would be a long term disaster for any oil dependent country, including China, who may wish to pick a side in an Middle East conflict, and use their military to intervene and secure oil for themselves. The whole region is one big grab bag, if the US does nothing.
The president Iran elected, Mosaddegh in the early 50's was a dummy and a loser, he was about to be disposed, either internally or externally, unless he sided with the Russians and got help from them to prop him up. Their experiment with democracy was just about dead before it even started, the whole country was slipping into panic and chaos, and on the way to becoming a new Soviet satellite state. A new strong man or Soviet puppet was about to be introduced, I think the CIA, Eisenhower, and Churchill all came to the same conclusion, that it might as well be our guy, it was a cold war play that worked. The economy had collapsed because Mosaddegh would not deal with Britain, he nationalized English oil production and they enforced a world wide boycott on Iranian oil, sending the economy into a tailspin. The new Shah, a product of France and gift from the CIA, knew how to play ball, and eventually did more for Iran than any other leader in modern history. He was a sharp operator and understood the West, and had spent much time in France.
Israel is not exactly out of the picture either, should the US want to withdraw from the region. They have something all the neighbors want, nukes, and a good air force. This is a pretty good deterrent to attacking Israel, and the memory of the 1967 and 1973 wars as a little reminder to Iran or the Saudi's, to leave them out of their conquest plans, else Israel might make conquest plans of their own.
To translate. Mosaddegh wasn't a fan of DC or the CIA nor was he willing to be a puppet of either MI6 or the CIA. As a result we interfered with a sovereign nation and installed our own man. A brutal, murdering dictator, whom we supported until he was overthrown in the 70's. As a result of our interference 10's of thousands, if not more, Iranians were murdered by the Shah of Iran. A proud achievement, that we finally confessed to in 2013.
I wonder if that confession was a result of Obama's trying to belly crawl to the Iranians? He was good at that.
In this case and back on topic. Trump ordered an airstrike on a terror mastermind. I have no heartburn with that. I am however amused by many on the left, who cheered as Obama set records for the most drone strikes, now have a sudden moral outrage.
President Trump says U.S has targeted 52 sites in Iran that will be "hit fast and hard", Massive protests in LA
President Trump is pro-America, while liberal protestors in LA are anti-American and pro-Iran.
President Trump has a beautiful, perfect foreign policy. The protestors will do draw fake attention to themselves and the radical anti-American agenda they have.
They have a right to protest, but they are very naive and they should be nice and support President Trump and his decisions because he is always right when it comes to foreign policy.
What is disguesting is the liberal, fake news media wanting for this to come back and haunt Trump. The fake news media dislike America's brilliant commander in chief and President Trump so much, that they support Iran over the United States of America.
As long as President Trump is sitting in the oval office, America will always be safe and strong. President Trump is the strongest and most brilliant commander in chief that has ever been in the White House and every country knows better than to pull any nonsense while he is serving as our President.
This was a brilliant decision from President Trump. He has always won in the realm of foreign policy and keeping America safe and will continue to win.
These liberals have a first amendment right to protest, but President Trump is always right on foreign policy and will always win.
We only know what has been reported in the news which isn't much. I'm not at all crazy about Trump but we don't have access to the same information he does. If he prevented thousands of Americans from being killed like happened in 9/11 then thats one thing. But if he did this for any other reason
Do you support not killing him or others like him?
I’m not against killing him but it depends on what follows, sure there are plenty of people in IRG that are behind terrorism. What’s the next step.
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He was good at that.
President Trump says U.S has targeted 52 sites in Iran that will be "hit fast and hard", Massive protests in LA
