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Congressional seats are allocated to states based on how many inhabitants they have, as tabulated in the census every 10 years. As recently as the 1940s, Illinois had 27 U.S. House members. Today, it has just 18 — and commensurately less clout in Washington. After the 2020 census, it will have no more than 17, and could drop to 16. Texas, by contrast, could go from 36 to 38.
They were saying the other night, in the last decade, it was Illinois, that had lost the most residents.
But, I can see in just the last 2 years, conservative people leaving in droves, states that have an income tax and a socialist view of spending other peoples money.
The big problem with NY state and NYC is this. Both entities serves the interest of the rich and the poor. If you are in between both classes, you are really screwed.
The big problem with NY state and NYC is this. Both entities serves the interest of the rich and the poor. If you are in between both classes, you are really screwed.
There is also a problem for the rich in states like NY, IL, and CA. Because of the Trump tax reform of 2017, the rich can now only deduct $10,000 of state/local taxes from their federal taxes. If you're in a state with a 12.3% top state income tax rate (CA) AND high sales tax, that makes a huge difference. If you're someone making 7 figures, you're going to be thinking hard about moving to a state with no state income tax.
Right wing nut jobs, not everything is about the fetish you hold for your guns and you seem to think people leave NY because of abortion and gay rights and welfare.
Most people leave NY because of cost of living. That cost of living is the result of 1) High taxes...state income tax, and property tax. A big chunk of taxes are driven by cops and teachers salaries. Where I live, teachers are overcompensated and cops wildly overcompensated relative to the demand for their jobs and the skills an education required for them. 2) very expensive real estate in areas where there are good paying jobs.
The problems in New York about those on the "inside" making big money of tax payer subsidy, and those on the outside having to pay for it. This is not left wing ideology, it's basically corruption under the guise of being pro union. The only unions left are public sector unions whose employers are constituents held hostage by taxes.
I'm sure we have a heftier welfare situation than other states, but when a beat cop can make approaching $200K with a High School Diploma in addition to free pension and healthcare for life while a Physicians assistant makes $100K..that's where the problem lies. Why would the PA, a skilled worker, stay here?
New York is going the way of California. If New Yorkers do not like how their state is in decline, it is time to elect non-Democratic Party members to offices.
I grew up in the Rochester, N.Y. area; Mom and a couple of Aunts still live there. I left in my early 20's. I enjoyed the location but in my opinion it isn't in my best interests to live there.
The main reason is the corruption and taxation. Not only do they have an income tax and sales tax; property taxes are extreme. Most people I know in the area pay five times more than I do for a similar priced property. Tack on the income tax and sales tax and you are talking serious money.
Where's the money going? I just saw that the state legislature is being paid 110k per year which is clearly DOUBLE what most other states pay. Why is that?
I recently saw that the Rochester city school district is spending over 30,000 dollars per student and they have a higher dropout rate and lower test scores than the Nashville public school system here in Tennessee. Nashville spends just over 10,000 dollars per student. WHY does it cost more than most colleges to educate students in Rochester, N.Y. ? It certainly isn't the quality.
Another thing is the way Cuomo acts more like a dictator than a public servant. Just look at the legal marijuana issue. Most states that have legalized weed have done so by referendum but not Cuomo; he just decided that the legislature should decide.
New York will continue to lose taxpayers unless it can create a favorable environment.
A few weeks ago I just red THE AMITYVILLE HORROR for fun (not a believer, but I grew up with the original movie as a favorite) and in a book written in the 1970s they were complaining about their surveying business being destroyed because of the high property taxes, and no one buying houses. It really jumped out at me.
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Funny, I read an article yesterday that said it was New Jersey, oh well.
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I thought Illinois was losing the most people. I guess everyone wants to be number one at something....whether its good or bad.
What do New York, New Jersey, and Illinois all have in common...?
Two deep blue states and one a slightly lighter shade.
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Right wing nut jobs, not everything is about the fetish you hold for your guns and you seem to think people leave NY because of abortion and gay rights and welfare.
Most people leave NY because of cost of living. That cost of living is the result of 1) High taxes...state income tax, and property tax. A big chunk of taxes are driven by cops and teachers salaries. Where I live, teachers are overcompensated and cops wildly overcompensated relative to the demand for their jobs and the skills an education required for them. 2) very expensive real estate in areas where there are good paying jobs.
The problems in New York about those on the "inside" making big money of tax payer subsidy, and those on the outside having to pay for it. This is not left wing ideology, it's basically corruption under the guise of being pro union. The only unions left are public sector unions whose employers are constituents held hostage by taxes.
I'm sure we have a heftier welfare situation than other states, but when a beat cop can make approaching $200K with a High School Diploma in addition to free pension and healthcare for life while a Physicians assistant makes $100K..that's where the problem lies. Why would the PA, a skilled worker, stay here?
Uh, absurd taxes, overcompensated public officials, and union corruption. You just decried precisely three of the MANY lefty problems that we are talking about. You have stumbled blindly into the truth.
Be careful who you describe as a nutjob. You just may end up making a fool of yourself.
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What do New York, New Jersey, and Illinois all have in common...?
Two deep blue states and one a slightly lighter shade.
Another thing they and the other blue states have in common, is that they are the most productive, have the best-educated people and are the backbone of the entire country.
Another thing they and the other blue states have in common, is that they are the most productive, have the best-educated people and are the backbone of the entire country.
Yeah, right. California has the highest rate of those 25 and over without a high school diploma. “Best-educated”. Surely. Also have a third of the nation’s welfare recipients. You can have this state. It’s become an embarrassment. Backbone of the country? Perhaps the tailbone.
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