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Old 01-04-2020, 12:17 PM
 
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Immigration and demographic change are the most important issues facing Republicans today. Virginia is a warning

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Old 01-04-2020, 12:32 PM
 
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It's hard to get worked up about chain migration when Trump railed against it while bringing Melania's family here.

IMO the demographic changes are more that Trump supporters tend to be old Boomers like Trump that long for the '50s when white men ruled the home, the church and the country. Look at their priorities: making abortion illegal, overturning gay marriage (a third of Trump's judges are publicly anti-gay), strengthening the church's role in government, reducing even legal migration. As this generation ages, their impact on elections will naturally decrease. Further, Trump and the GOP have become increasingly misogynistic. They wouldn't let even one woman on the GOP health care committee. Not even ONE woman. There are only 8 GOP women in the Senate vs. 17 Democratic women. There are only 13 GOP women in the House vs. 88 Democratic women.

Trump and his supporters have decided farmers and coal miners should get billions of taxpayer dollars while they leveraged SALT limits that impacted the suburbs. Look what happened to the number of GOP in California after Trump's tax plan passed. CA voters decided if their own GOP representatives were going to raise their taxes, they may as well get rid of them and they did.

While Trump supporters thrive on "owning the libs", demographically, that is temporary and Democrats have a lot to look forward to when the reckoning comes. We no longer have to be concerned with angering half the country, in fact, after this we can say "owning the cons" is perfectly just.
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Old 01-04-2020, 01:15 PM
 
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These demographic changes are not written in stone. Strict limits on immigration, ending chain migration, a welfare system that favors high birthrates, deporting the 17-20 million illegals would be a huge start.
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Old 01-04-2020, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Again, you're barking up the wrong tree on this one.

Best way is to compete with the Democrats for these votes.And by the way, the Dems don't get the credit for catering to them - they were chicken and cowardly in responding to Pete Wilson's Prop 187 campaign.

I've said this time and time again - you used to have a whole lot of Hispanic, Asian, and even Muslim American votes. You threw all that way to cater to a shrinking demographic of xenophobic, older white people with nativist fearmongering.

Good luck trying your ethnic cleansing. Ask the Serbians, Croats, Bosnians how smoothly that went.
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Old 01-04-2020, 02:50 PM
 
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Again, you're barking up the wrong tree on this one.

Best way is to compete with the Democrats for these votes.And by the way, the Dems don't get the credit for catering to them - they were chicken and cowardly in responding to Pete Wilson's Prop 187 campaign.

I've said this time and time again - you used to have a whole lot of Hispanic, Asian, and even Muslim American votes. You threw all that way to cater to a shrinking demographic of xenophobic, older white people with nativist fearmongering.

Good luck trying your ethnic cleansing. Ask the Serbians, Croats, Bosnians how smoothly that went.
It's always the same losing percentage with minorities, always. Unless Republicans just want to run some sterile rino like Jeb or Romney or rubio, they still won't win the minority vote with RINOs, their best strategy is to limit immigration.
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Old 01-04-2020, 02:55 PM
 
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These demographic changes are not written in stone. Strict limits on immigration, ending chain migration, a welfare system that favors high birthrates, deporting the 17-20 million illegals would be a huge start.
Agreed, but these illegal's anchor babies will mostly vote Democrat and so do most immigrants therefore they will never allow any of these measures to take place. They are also pandering to the ethnocentric type of Hispanic citizen who wants amnesty for their illegal amigos.
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Old 01-04-2020, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Republicans are going to be aghast at how extensive this phenomenon is. Johnson County, KS is already swarming with Asians. I am already expecting KS to gradually become a swing state. And the most heavily republican areas are the ones that are depopulating. Could you imagine the reaction of republicans if Kansas started becoming competitive?
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Old 01-04-2020, 03:05 PM
 
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It's always the same losing percentage with minorities, always. Unless Republicans just want to run some sterile rino like Jeb or Romney or rubio, they still won't win the minority vote with RINOs, their best strategy is to limit immigration.
The GOP caters to law abiding Americans (regardless of their age or race) by wanting our immigration laws enforced. Who can anyone find fault with that? If a minority doesn't like that then they aren't truly Americans at heart in the first place. There is no xenophobia, nativism or fear mongering in wanting our immigration laws respected and enforced or limiting legal immigration to those who will be a benefit to our society rather than be a burden. Why would any minority not understand that common sense policy? Where's the xenophobia, nativism, etc. in that? We don't even favor white people in our immigration numbers. I'm dumb founded when people make such idiotic statements.
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Old 01-04-2020, 03:12 PM
 
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These demographic changes are not written in stone. Strict limits on immigration, ending chain migration, a welfare system that favors high birthrates, deporting the 17-20 million illegals would be a huge start.
Don’t hold your breath on deporting 20 million people.

If you look at the nation’s children, we are already minority-majority. That ship has sailed. We will eventually become a minority-majority nation.

Minority children are the majority among children in the following ten states: California, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Mississippi, and Maryland.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majo...#United_States

It’s too late to stop an eventual minority-majority America. It’s just a question of how long railing against immigration continues to pay political dividends for the GOP before it eventually bites them in the butt.
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Old 01-04-2020, 03:19 PM
 
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The change is also within a group that once supported the GOP in strong numbers, white women.

Republican Women Are in Crisis

In the past 10 years, they have become an endangered species on the political stage.
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Suburban and college-educated white women, once reliable Republican voters, have fled the party in droves since Mr. Trump’s election. According to the Brookings Institution, white college educated women increased their vote for Democrats by 13 points between 2016 and 2018. Among women, only white evangelicals remain firmly committed to the Republican Party and Mr. Trump.
The alienation of female voters from the party is compounded by the indifference, at best, of Republican men to female candidates.
Together, these two trends have decimated the ranks of female Republican officeholders.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/31/o...rty-women.html

The Incredible Shrinking GOP
https://newrepublic.com/article/1546...ents-will-hurd
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