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Old 01-04-2020, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I’ve not heard- has Russia said anything ?

 
Old 01-04-2020, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I’ve not heard- has Russia said anything ?
They said he did it to distract from impeachment. They were merciless in their condemnation (and mostly right).

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russia...on-impeachment
 
Old 01-04-2020, 03:51 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Trump withdraws from agreement

Trump imposes punishing sanctions on Iran

(and here is where you can come in with your timeline)

It is quite reasonable to assume that NONE of the things you cite would have come to pass had Trump not withdrawn and declared economic war on Iran with sanctions.
And why did Trump cancel the agreement?

They continued developing their Nuclear program against the agreement.

They were not living up to their part of a bad agreement.
 
Old 01-04-2020, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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And why did Trump cancel the agreement?

They continued developing their Nuclear program against the agreement.

They were not living up to their part of a bad agreement.
You are wrong. They were in compliance. Inspection after inspection showed that and the Trump admin even certified it. Where oh where do you get your news and information?
 
Old 01-04-2020, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Trump shows restraint in Middle East: Finn_Jarber shouts "Orange Man Bad."

Trump responds to ongoing provocation in the Middle East: Finn_Jarber shouts "Orange Man Bad."

You're a one-trick pony whose trick got old a long time ago.
 
Old 01-04-2020, 04:11 PM
 
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You're recounting of events leaves off the most important development in the past several years. Let's flesh it out for historical accuracy:



The US and European nations conclude a long-negotiated deal with Iran that requires them to stop developing nuclear weapons and delivery systems.

Months and years pass with Iran compliance with all terms of the agreement verified by international inspectors.

There are NO rocket attacks against US interests from any Iranian proxy anywhere following the agreement

Trump withdraws from agreement

Trump imposes punishing sanctions on Iran

(and here is where you can come in with your timeline)

It is quite reasonable to assume that NONE of the things you cite would have come to pass had Trump not withdrawn and declared economic war on Iran with sanctions.
That’s just it. They did not comply. They were developing long range ballistic missles. A violation of the treaty.
 
Old 01-04-2020, 04:16 PM
 
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Yes, words have meanings, and when you kill officials of nations we are not at war with, then the word is assassination.
To paraphrase Chris Rock: “John Kennedy was assassinated. Martin Luther King was assassinated. That car full of inbred monsters got blown up.”

To put those Islamic insects in the same category as true freedom loving statesmen is the height of sociopathic absurdity.
 
Old 01-04-2020, 04:16 PM
 
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The US embassy in Baghdad as well as the 5,200 American troops stationed across the country have faced a spate of rocket attacks in recent months that Washington has blamed on Iran and its allies in Iraq.
One attack last month killed a US contractor working in northern Iraq, prompting retaliatory American air strikes that killed 25 hardline fighters close to Iran.
The OP is stating this attack (from the OPs link) is because trump took out that general (that has killed hundreds of Americans...(yes we we all understand he did not pull the trigger, yet he gave the order)....yet the OP initial link clearly states the following:


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The US embassy in Baghdad as well as the 5,200 American troops stationed across the country have faced a spate of rocket attacks in recent months that Washington has blamed on Iran and its allies in Iraq.
One attack last month killed a US contractor working in northern Iraq, prompting retaliatory American air strikes that killed 25 hardline fighters close to Iran.
I guess those that support the OP are also supporting not killing terrorists.....
 
Old 01-04-2020, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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That’s just it. They did not comply. They were developing long range ballistic missles. A violation of the treaty.
That is not correct. The nuclear deal the P5+1 that Trump canceled did not cover ballistic missiles. Trump claimed numerous violations of the deal that all have been debunked. The missile violations supposedly were of a UN Resolution that used the language "called upon" to discourage ballistic missile testing. This was a change from the previous resolution that required it. The Obama admin argued for tougher language but lost. You can read about it here:

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/tr...le-violations/

https://www.npr.org/sections/paralle...u-n-resolution

The bottom line is that Trump walked away from the accord because Obama negotiated it and it was probably Obama's signature foreign policy achievement (there weren't many). It was working and if we were still in it we would not be in the horrible mess we are right now.

Last edited by Ponderosa; 01-04-2020 at 04:44 PM..
 
Old 01-04-2020, 05:13 PM
 
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Nothing new with the liberals.. Obama and Hillary blamed a video , not the terrorists for the 4 men murdered in Benghazi.. And Obama actually put the guy who made a movie in prison.. Obama also put Dinesh D'Sousa in prison when he made the movie Obama's America. Obama told his thugs to get anything on D'sousa.. and put him in jail. This is the left and their Communist tactics .
True. That whole Benghazi thing was disgusting.
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