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Old 01-05-2020, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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And revenue is at a high. Isn't that telling? Trump and government spending is out of control even though we are in an economic boom and have highest revenues. This kind of spending is unprecedented.

No its not, and we've had this discussion. Check Obama's first two years of Deficits and RECORD DEBT. Stop being dishonest, and deceptive.


Why do you Libs want a war so badly? It was just a retaliation, no different from what Obama, Bush and Clinton did. More deception, huh?
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Old 01-05-2020, 03:43 PM
 
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And yet, they are the largest revenues the US government has ever collected. .
Silly talking point. Please put it aside.

We also have the largest populations EVER each 5 minutes.

C'mon. At least assume some intelligence on the part of others here. The bottom line is we have the largest debt in our history....and a terribly YEARLY deficit, which shouldn't be do if we are in the "great economy" which some are suggesting.

"Largest revenues" doesn't mean anything. If you don't know that, you should. What means something is the difference between In and Out and the projected future for both.

Trump, in the stroke of a pen, doubled the deficit and made sure it would be over a Trillion per year for a decade or more. Using that same pen he hasn't saved a dime....

Therefore, using your standards, he's a complete fiscal failure. Your point of "spending problem" would only be relevant if Trump had put forward a balanced program.

But he himself ID's as "King of Debt". Once again, even you (his fan) aren't listening to what he admits to. That circle is hard for me to square. Do you think he is joking when he calls himself the King of Debt and asks for Negative Interest Rates?
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Old 01-05-2020, 03:52 PM
 
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No its not, and we've had this discussion. Check Obama's first two years of Deficits and RECORD DEBT. Stop being dishonest, and deceptive.
You keep pointing out Obama's first two years which was a continuation of Bush's QE. It's a shame that you liberals have no knowledge of economics and had no clue we were in a recession. Revenues are low during a recession. You pro-war liberals will lie to justify your wars. Just like you do about the current liberal President in the whitehouse.

Stop lying to yourself and others.
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Old 01-05-2020, 03:54 PM
 
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You keep pointing out Obama's first two years which was a continuation of Bush's QE. It's a shame that you liberals have no knowledge of economics and had no clue we were in a recession. Revenues are low during a recession. You pro-war liberals will lie to justify your wars. Just like you do about the current liberal President in the whitehouse.
Should just call Pilot1 a big spending Republican.. I don't think that poster is a liberal. But they sure aren't a traditional conservative too
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Old 01-05-2020, 03:58 PM
 
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Should just call Pilot1 a big spending Republican.. I don't think that poster is a liberal. But they sure aren't a traditional conservative too
Big government and big spending Pilot1 is liberal from a fiscal standpoint. These rinos need to stop corrupting our conservative party.
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Old 01-05-2020, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Originally Posted by TexasLawyer2000 View Post
You keep pointing out Obama's first two years which was a continuation of Bush's QE. It's a shame that you liberals have no knowledge of economics and had no clue we were in a recession. Revenues are low during a recession. You pro-war liberals will lie to justify your wars. Just like you do about the current liberal President in the whitehouse.

Stop lying to yourself and others.

You are just being dishonest. Obama ran up more debt then any previous President combined. I posted the link in the other thread where you lied. Get a grip.
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Old 01-05-2020, 04:01 PM
 
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Big government and big spending Pilot1 is liberal from a fiscal standpoint. These rinos need to stop corrupting our conservative party.
I'm not sure how you voted (or if you did in the Republican primary in 2016) But we see how it resulted.. More of the same.. GW Bush was the same thing..

I admit I lean more left but if the R party would actually practice what they preach (Cut spending) and reduce government I'd consider giving them another look. This big spending war hawk party is one I'll never support and its shown the last few days its still exactly the same as it was in the 2000s
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Old 01-05-2020, 04:02 PM
 
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You are just being dishonest. Obama ran up more debt then any previous President combined. I posted the link in the other thread where you lied. Get a grip.
Then how come Trump is spending more than even Obama did now?

And its sure going to go up more and quite a bit more with military action and possible war soon....
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Old 01-05-2020, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Silly talking point. Please put it aside.

We also have the largest populations EVER each 5 minutes.

C'mon. At least assume some intelligence on the part of others here. The bottom line is we have the largest debt in our history....and a terribly YEARLY deficit, which shouldn't be do if we are in the "great economy" which some are suggesting.

"Largest revenues" doesn't mean anything. If you don't know that, you should. What means something is the difference between In and Out and the projected future for both.

Trump, in the stroke of a pen, doubled the deficit and made sure it would be over a Trillion per year for a decade or more. Using that same pen he hasn't saved a dime....

Therefore, using your standards, he's a complete fiscal failure. Your point of "spending problem" would only be relevant if Trump had put forward a balanced program.

But he himself ID's as "King of Debt". Once again, even you (his fan) aren't listening to what he admits to. That circle is hard for me to square. Do you think he is joking when he calls himself the King of Debt and asks for Negative Interest Rates?
Trump King of Debt and master of bankruptcy.

Taking our nation there everyday.
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Old 01-05-2020, 04:06 PM
 
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This was something that Bush II was criticized for, not putting the brakes on tax cuts while engaged in an overseas conflict. It was characterized as "having a war and not paying for it".

Will Trump do the same considering a robust economy, in part fueled by reducing taxes, is something he and his supporters state as being a hallmark of his achievements. So will it be business as usual, tax cuts hold and debt run up or will he rescind the cuts or even raise taxes for the war effort?

There's no war with Iran.


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