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Old 01-07-2020, 07:48 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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False propaganda thread started by the OP.
Yep

The usual double down on stupid. Prepare for incoming key board stick figures vs actual debate and facts.

 
Old 01-07-2020, 08:17 PM
 
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False propaganda thread started by the OP.

Absolutely not. It's very, very simple:

Arsonists stared the fires. Climate change made them spread like they have never spread before.

Climate change is killing people, destroying homes and businesses, and wildlife worldwide. That's an indisputable scientific fact.
 
Old 01-07-2020, 08:19 PM
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Location: Victoria, BC.
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From your link...47 people for discarding a lighted cigarette or match on land....(Not arson) 53 people for failing to comply with a total fire ban...(Not arson)

Arson the deliberate setting of property on fire with criminal intent.
 
Old 01-07-2020, 08:25 PM
 
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How much global warming was there in 1851 when such fires burned over 5 million hectares?

Let's look at part of the famous Australian poem "My Country" written in 1904:

I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.

Sounds like climate change in 1904. Lol
 
Old 01-07-2020, 08:29 PM
 
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Absolutely not. It's very, very simple:

Arsonists stared the fires. Climate change made them spread like they have never spread before.

Climate change is killing people, destroying homes and businesses, and wildlife worldwide. That's an indisputable scientific fact.
So let me get this straight. Arsonists start the fires. Because of global warming, the fires the arsonists set spread.

Before global warming, I guess the arsonists set the fires and said fires spontaneously extinguished? Kinda like magic?

What does “spread like they have never spread before” mean? Every fire I’ve ever seen spreads if there’s fuel. The more fuel there is, the more the fire spreads. It’s not rocket science and certainly not global warming.
 
Old 01-07-2020, 08:32 PM
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It's not good.... As fires continue to rip through Australia, some devastating numbers are emerging: At least 24 people killed. More than 15.6 million acres torched. Over 1,400 homes destroyed. And, according to one biodiversity expert's count, an estimated 1 billion animals killed.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2...-dead-estimate
 
Old 01-07-2020, 08:35 PM
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Location: Victoria, BC.
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So let me get this straight. Arsonists start the fires. Because of global warming, the fires the arsonists set spread.

Before global warming, I guess the arsonists set the fires and said fires spontaneously extinguished? Kinda like magic?

What does “spread like they have never spread before” mean? Every fire I’ve ever seen spreads if there’s fuel. The more fuel there is, the more the fire spreads. It’s not rocket science and certainly not global warming.
Yes, and the hotter the climate the more violent the fires...Face facts...Climate change is making matters worse....
 
Old 01-07-2020, 08:41 PM
 
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From your link...47 people for discarding a lighted cigarette or match on land....(Not arson) 53 people for failing to comply with a total fire ban...(Not arson)

Arson the deliberate setting of property on fire with criminal intent.
you're arguing semantics....183 people have been charged..some for starting several fires..so say 200 fires

200 fires is almost all of the fires burning now....even if some of the fires started from embers from another fire

I will guarantee you....if those 183 people had not caused those fires...no one would even be talking about it now...global warming or no global warming
 
Old 01-07-2020, 08:44 PM
 
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How much global warming was there in 1851 when such fires burned over 5 million hectares?
Were there hurricanes before climate change made them worse? Yes.
Were there wildfires before climate change made them worse? Yes.
Were there floods before climate change made them worse? Yes.


Rinse and repeat....
 
Old 01-07-2020, 08:46 PM
 
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Yes, and the hotter the climate the more violent the fires...Face facts...Climate change is making matters worse....
Thank you for that riveting in depth analysis. Clear as mud. I’ll face facts when you or someone else actually present some.
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