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Old 01-09-2020, 03:03 PM
 
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Iran shot down the Airplane right after it took off from their own Airport .... that was about an Hour after they sent Missiles into Iraq.

Good Grief!
I think it was 4 hours.

1:20 am was the first ballistic missiles - took 10 or 20 minutes to shoot all.

Plane left after 6am.
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Old 01-09-2020, 03:04 PM
 
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“This may well have been unintentional.” - Sparkle Socks

Permitting civilian overflights during expected military response – intentional.
Turning on targeting system – intentional.
Arming warhead – intentional.
Failing to verify airplane transponder – intentional.
Failure to make radio contact prior to attack – intentional.
Firing missile – intentional.

Only thing remaining is whether Iran knew they were shooting down a civilian aircraft in order to blame USA or were too incompetent to know the difference between a B-52 radar signature and a 737. So sorry for the families of those killed in this cowardly attack.
So you don't think it's "remaining" whether Russia has back doors into the computers and command and control of the stuff it sells?
They shot down an airliner in Ukraine......and 15K plus dead there..and they poison people in other countries and much more. Putin has killed so many people he's lost count.


None of the stuff you listed means anything if only two things are done - plane targeted, missile fired.
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Old 01-09-2020, 03:05 PM
 
Location: DFW
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But, no, the thing was obviously shot down likely by a Russian anti-aircraft missile. We will never know the real score because there is no way of doing so. It makes sense that, as usual, 100's or thousands of Russians are constantly in Iran training their forces. It's also likely that Russia has back doors into the software that runs the systems them sell. Putin loves to stir things up and he hates Ukraine, so he could have made it happen and we'd never know.

If anyone thinks Putin cares about dead people......they don't know him. At all.
It wasn't the Russians.

https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1215368739195162632
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Old 01-09-2020, 03:16 PM
 
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So you don't think it's "remaining" whether Russia has back doors into the computers and command and control of the stuff it sells?
They shot down an airliner in Ukraine......and 15K plus dead there..and they poison people in other countries and much more. Putin has killed so many people he's lost count.


None of the stuff you listed means anything if only two things are done - plane targeted, missile fired.
Again, you clearly have zero idea what you are talking about. The "back door" thing is absurd, so absurd you cannot even present a shred of evidence and it is not even physically possible. I might as well say Trump and Obama were controlling the US war planes that Saudi Arabia has been using to kill numerous civilians in Yemen.

Ukrainian rebels shot the MH17 down, not Russia, even Ukraine says this.

And do not even start with what they (Russians) do in other countries all the while being quiet regarding what the US is doing in other countries.

Here is a question; over the last 20 years, who is responsible for more deaths in the world, the US or Russia?
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Old 01-09-2020, 03:23 PM
 
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All 176 deaths are all on Trump's head. If he hadn't taken out Soleimani to distract from the impeachment, those people would all still be alive, enjoying their lives with their families. If I had a family member killed in that crash, I'd sue Trump for every penny he had.

Since he has no conscience, this won't even register in his mind, nor in the minds of the Trump-loving Republicans out there.
Good grief.
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Old 01-09-2020, 03:25 PM
 
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Would you have taken off from Iran that night? I sure wouldn't have.
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Old 01-09-2020, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I called it 5 minutes after the plane was reported down by using deductive reasoning....I made up few posts that CD Minders deleted that Iran probably got freaked and shot it down or it triggered a defense radar that was activated after they fired off those blanks at us.
Millions of people " called it ".

It was either a malfunction, or a missile. Everyone had a 50/50 chance of guessing it right
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Old 01-09-2020, 03:30 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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What if the investigation reveals it was one of the missiles Iran shot at the US? Will Ukraine retaliate? Will it send a missile into Tehran?
Maybe they can use some of the anti-tank missiles we sold them against Iran. Oh wait.......
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Old 01-09-2020, 03:33 PM
 
Location: DFW
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I think it was 4 hours.

1:20 am was the first ballistic missiles - took 10 or 20 minutes to shoot all.

Plane left after 6am.
You are right about the 6:14. The 9:44 ECT converts to that time in Tehran.

They were showing Rocket attacks here which made it appear like they were happening all at the same time.

There was a 3-4 hour gap between the attacks and the Plane being hit.


https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/sta...60490467135491
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Old 01-09-2020, 04:22 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Trump has blood on his hands
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