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Old 01-13-2020, 06:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ralphfr View Post
Are you related to trump? Deny, deny, deny, namecall. Same playbook!
The White House's bluff has been called. They have no defense or legal arguments to present.

As for the questions presented in Committee on the Judiciary v. Harriet Miers :

Does the judicial branch have a role in determining whether the President can frustrate Congress's powers to obtain information necessary to restore public confidence in the justice system?

And, does the judiciary play a role in assessing the need for legislation to prevent recurrence of White House wrongdoing?

In Brief:

The Brennan Center for Justice filed an amici brief asking the D.C. District Court to allow Congress to proceed with its efforts to enforce the subpoenas issued against former White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten and former White House counsel Harriet Miers in the executive privilege case, Committee on the Judiciary, United States House of Representatives v. Harriet Miers et al., related to the contentious 2006 firing of nine U.S. Attorneys.

Procedural history & ruling:

The case was brought before the D.C. District Court against Miers and Bolten by the House Committee on the Judiciary.

The Brennan Center and co-amici filed their brief on May 29, 2008, in opposition of the defendants' attempt to dismiss the case.

On July 31, 2008, the D.C. District ruled that former White House employees must cooperate with the House Judiciary Committee's investigation.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-wo...s-amicus-brief
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Old 01-13-2020, 06:48 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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The Courts issued the subpoenas, it was Mr. Trump's call to instruct his staff to defy the subpoenas. The White House 'felt justified' in defying court-issued subpoenas for testimony & evidence. The Courts issued a stay while he appealed based on his 'feelings' about it..
The subpoenas were not Court-issued. Any attorney, including myself, can sign a subpoena under court caption. Either the issuer needs to seek to compel its observance or the subject needs to move to quash, if compliance is not voluntary.
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No. Wrong.

Schiffs Committee issued the Letters of Intent instructing them to show and they did not even call them Subpoenas. They were voluntary for you to Show in front of Schiffs committee.

The Court did not issue any subpoena or Trump would have had the right to contest and take it to higher appeals.

Even Schiff withdrew the 1 Person that did go to court. There were zero court issued subpoenas.
The whole thing is one big schiff show.
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Old 01-13-2020, 06:53 PM
 
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She does have a way of getting into his head but boy does he get into theirs and it drives them crazy.





It really is crazy how some people see a crime worthy of hanging him while others don't see a thing.

How can some people be so hyped to see an impeachable offense while others have more common sense? Guess which side I am on? LOL I just don't see it what the fuss is about. We all know how Trump speaks, his manners, his words and that is what the concern was over the call. The Dems put words in his mouth and read between the lines to see what they wanted to see, a conspiracy.



Will we ever come together again?
Nope.
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Old 01-13-2020, 06:55 PM
 
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Will trump testify?
Huh? Why would he? Why should he....?
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Old 01-14-2020, 04:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Nice one. No crimes were included in the articles of Impeachment. They were dropped. It is, read carefully, Abuse of Power and Obstruction of Congress. Crimes are contained in those. But keep up the denial. Trump loves ya for it.
Show CRIMES and Statute. "Abuse of Power", and "Obstruction of Congress", are catch phrases in the fevered minds of the demented leftist out of control House!

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Old 01-14-2020, 04:40 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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The White House's bluff has been called. They have no defense or legal arguments to present.

As for the questions presented in Committee on the Judiciary v. Harriet Miers :

Does the judicial branch have a role in determining whether the President can frustrate Congress's powers to obtain information necessary to restore public confidence in the justice system?

And, does the judiciary play a role in assessing the need for legislation to prevent recurrence of White House wrongdoing?

In Brief:

The Brennan Center for Justice filed an amici brief asking the D.C. District Court to allow Congress to proceed with its efforts to enforce the subpoenas issued against former White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten and former White House counsel Harriet Miers in the executive privilege case, Committee on the Judiciary, United States House of Representatives v. Harriet Miers et al., related to the contentious 2006 firing of nine U.S. Attorneys.

Procedural history & ruling:

The case was brought before the D.C. District Court against Miers and Bolten by the House Committee on the Judiciary.

The Brennan Center and co-amici filed their brief on May 29, 2008, in opposition of the defendants' attempt to dismiss the case.

On July 31, 2008, the D.C. District ruled that former White House employees must cooperate with the House Judiciary Committee's investigation.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-wo...s-amicus-brief
All Nancy had to do was go the Judicial Branch in THIS "case", but didn't. Oh well!!!!
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Old 01-14-2020, 05:22 AM
 
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All Nancy had to do was go the Judicial Branch in THIS "case", but didn't. Oh well!!!!
Our system of jurisprudence is based on case law & judicial precedents. Ms. Pelosi is calling their bluff ~ they have no defense strategy or legal arguments. Let's face it, there's no defense for the indefensible.
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Old 01-14-2020, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Our system of jurisprudence is based on case law & judicial precedents. Ms. Pelosi is calling their bluff ~ they have no defense strategy or legal arguments. Let's face it, there's no defense for the indefensible.
Still NOT citing ANY statutory laws. Just ANGER over losing an election!

The precedent being set in THIS "case" will lead to future frivolous use of the Impeachment Clause, and further weaken The Union, all because the butt hurt left lost an election.

Nice going, LOSERS!
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Old 01-14-2020, 05:47 AM
 
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Still NOT citing ANY statutory laws. Just ANGER over losing an election!

The precedent being set in THIS "case" will lead to future frivolous use of the Impeachment Clause, and further weaken The Union, all because the butt hurt left lost an election.

Nice going, LOSERS!
The precedent established in Committee on the Judiciary v. Harriet Miers:

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"Indeed, the aspect of this lawsuit that is unprecedented is the notion that Ms. Miers is absolutely immune from compelled congressional process," Bates wrote. "The Supreme Court has reserved absolute immunity for very narrow circumstances, involving the president’s personal exposure to suits for money damages based on his official conduct or concerning matters of national security or foreign affairs. The executive’s current claim of absolute immunity from compelled congressional process for senior presidential aides is without any support in the case law."

Bates added: "The court holds only that Ms. Miers (and other senior presidential advisers) do not have absolute immunity from compelled congressional process in the context of this particular subpoena dispute. There may be some instances where absolute (or qualified) immunity is appropriate for such advisers, but this is not one of them."
Federal judge rules against Miers, White House on subpoenas

https://www.politico.com/blogs/polit...bpoenas-010681

It was a landmark ruling confirming the fundamental principle of checks & balances & the basic American idea that no person is above the law.

Personally I don't get why any of you guys wants to grant any president of the United States the 'rights of a Roman Emperor'? ( much less this particular one ) The British crown ~ a King or Queen ~ is literally unimpeachable, not so a President.
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Old 01-14-2020, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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The precedent established in Committee on the Judiciary v. Harriet Miers:



Federal judge rules against Miers, White House on subpoenas

https://www.politico.com/blogs/polit...bpoenas-010681

It was a landmark ruling confirming the fundamental principle of checks & balances & the basic American idea that no person is above the law.

Personally I don't get why any of you guys wants to grant any president of the United States the 'rights of a Roman Emperor'? ( much less this particular one ) The British crown ~ a King or Queen ~ is literally unimpeachable, not so a President.
That's nice. What LAW did the president break to warrant an impeachment inquiry?

Answer: NONE!!!!

SEND THE ARTICLES NOW!

Let's get this rolling in the Senate NOW COWARDS!
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