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Maybe those women should keep their barn doors shut!
You miss the point that in this matter either BOTH should have equal say and equal responsibility or not!
You want the woman to have all the say and the man to have all the responsibility though.
The equality and responsibility comes when they decided to engage in sexual intercourse. Do it or dont do it, be responsible for your own contraception or not.
How can one have equal say over another persons body? They are two distinctly separate persons. Can you be equally pregnant, do you equally share the risks and changes in bodies, do you equally share the birth? Do you equally lose work, education, alienate family, burden others. If you do that then sure BOTH should have equal say about what happens.
Think about how many single men who were against a pregnancy actually pay child support, much less parent. Not many. 38% of CS awarded where they were never married. Of 100% of child support awarded only 41% of non custodial parents pay.
How many men do think want the baby, are willing to marry the mother and commit to being a father yet the mother aborts anyway? And please actually research it a bit. The linked article in the OP will even give you an indication.
Are you saying men should have no rights to their children. No say in their naming, upbringing, no visitation or parental rights since the child is the woman's responsibility? No father in any child's life.
I'm guessing you weren't following the conversation or you have comprehension problems...go back and try again!
I'm guessing you weren't following the conversation or you have comprehension problems...go back and try again!
Or you could just clarify instead of trying to insult me.
You say, I assume, that because women have the right to make decisions about her own body, specifically to abort or carry a pregnancy to term and the man who impregnated her does not then she is or should be 100% responsible for her decision. I'm assuming you mean to financially support the child should she choose to keep it.
Is this correct?
And if that is so 100% responsible should mean having 100% parental rights with men having no parental rights. Parental rights include naming, decision making, parenting, etc.
You cant have it both ways.
To those who "disagree" with child support--when you lobby politicians asking them to eradicate child support laws because it's "not fair" that a woman can choose abortion or to continue a pregnancy, what has the general response been? Just curious.
Or you could just clarify instead of trying to insult me.
You say, I assume, that because women have the right to make decisions about her own body, specifically to abort or carry a pregnancy to term and the man who impregnated her does not then she is or should be 100% responsible for her decision. I'm assuming you mean to financially support the child should she choose to keep it.
Is this correct?
And if that is so 100% responsible should mean having 100% parental rights with men having no parental rights. Parental rights include naming, decision making, parenting, etc.
You cant have it both ways.
I'm not going back through an entire discussion because you're too lazy! It's on you for taking one comment out of context and assuming what it means...
I'm not going back through an entire discussion because you're too lazy! It's on you for taking one comment out of context and assuming what it means...
So is that a yes or a no?
Or you dug yourself a hole and cant get out.
I wouldn't be so sure about what teens do and don't know. A young woman (with a uterus!) was surprised during a discussion in my colleague's classroom about how fetuses got their nourishment. She didn't know what the belly button is for and didn't know about umbilical cords. When the teacher asked her how she had thought that fetuses get their food, the girl--a junior probably aged 17, replied, "I thought the baby just reached up and got food from their mama's stomach, you know, like a french fry." I have talked to students who were in the room at the time and witnessed the conversation, so it was verifiable. There are people of reproductive age with organs that they don't even know that they have or what they do. It's a chilling thought on many, many levels.
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Yeah, right. Like that is the typical teen. Sounds like this particular girl had some learning disorder or was messing with the teacher.
Having been a teen and having been around teens for many, many years I confident that they know what a fetus is and what abortion is.
My guess with this feeding stuff is that the teen girl never thought about how a fetus ate before. I don't know if I knew all that stuff as a jr. in high school, either.
The fact is that a properly performed abortion is safer than carrying a pregnancy to term. Look it up for yourself. So yes, that is how a kid should answer that question on a test. Because that’s what the statistics show.
No one here believes that you oppose abortion because abortion is more dangerous than carrying to term.
No that poster doesn't. They oppose abortion due to a religious argument.
No that poster doesn't. They oppose abortion due to a religious argument.
I'm not religious. I'm not a man. I didn't vote for Trump.
Got it? GOOD. Mind blown? Yes... and can YOU move on already? /eyeroll/
The question I posed was If a religious STUDENT was asked a question about abortion as being a wonderful option for women in a SEX ED class ... how would they be graded? Since sex ed is essentially teaching LGBT + abortion ... as a pro-sex ed poster defined it.
Because LGBT + abortion are political issues. That have nothing to do with health and biology. Which is why .. sex ed.
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