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Old 01-11-2020, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I'm curious as to who was on that plane? There is this whole impeachment thing going on because of Ukraine, and then a Ukraine plane gets shot down????? Sorry, I don't believe in coincidences.
9/11 Ukrainians were crew members.

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Old 01-11-2020, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Remember how it was a "conspiracy theory" to suggest mechanical failure was not the cause of this crash? At least, that's what lefty kept telling us. Well, Iran proves lefty to be gullible and easily misled once again. But lefty is still clinging on to the belief that this is still Trump's fault, one way or the other.



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...ops+to+zero%29
You are confused, it wasn't the left telling you it was a mechanical failure it was Iran. But don't let any disaster get in the way of a partisan opportunity to blame.
 
Old 01-11-2020, 08:56 AM
 
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There were key Ukranian and Canadian witnesses on the plane that could have put the Clintons in jail over the Uranium One scandal. Now, after the witnesses are gone, the DOJ just announced yesterday that they were ending the Uranium One investigation. This is the perfect explanation, and ties it all together neatly.
Key Witnesses?

According to whom?

What did they witness?

9/11 Ukrainians on board were experienced crew members.

Most, maybe all, of the 57 Canadians, were Iranian- Canadian and young, including children.
 
Old 01-11-2020, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Riiiiiight.

But it could have been Russian, Ukraine, Iranian, Chinese, any of the NATO members and several other countries that could have also been deemed "suspicious" based upon your criteria.

In short, almost any flight going around there either due to the passengers or the airline etc. you'd have found some sort of tie-in to something "going on".
Some seem prone to the hobby of connecting the Clintons to every tragedy.
 
Old 01-11-2020, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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No I never heard anything BUT that everything pointed to Iran shooting down the plane....most likely by accident. I did hear that IRan reported it was a mechanical error but every station...ABC, CNN, CBC, BBC, etc. ....alll said that the evidence pointed to the plane being shot down,
BOTH Iran and the Ukrainian governments initially attributed it to a mechanical issue. Then the Ukrain retracted, followed by Iran.

Subsequent, ALL MSM reported that evidence was building that the flight was shot down, maybe by accident, exactly what Trump said.
 
Old 01-11-2020, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I was a day late in my prediction that the shooting down of the jet would be blamed on Trump.


This morning on NPR the host said to the guest that there were some people that are saying the plane would not have been shot down if Trump hadn't murdered Salami. They also said in typical Liberal fashion that Trump should have alerted the Iranian authorities that he was going to strike Salami and not invade the country because after the hit the military was on high alert and waiting for trouble...


Oh yeah blame Trump the perpetual punching bag for all that is wrong in the world. How typical.
 
Old 01-11-2020, 09:18 AM
 
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Updated story, Iran finally came around. Yesterday they had bulldozers moving the wreckage around and people bagging up debris so I thought they were going to continue with the lie. No way were they going to avoid the truth. Strange that this was the 10th plane that departed that morning. The problem is that they knew this for days yet refused to take responsibility, the Ayatollah has questions to answer.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/w...ane-crash.html
Many flights departed before and after the targeted flight.

Rarely do those responsible immediately take ownership for tragedies, like plane crashes. Boeing and the FAA are recent examples. Then there’s the “ disappearance ” of Malaysia Flt 370.

Obviously, the evidence about the demise of Ukrainian Air # 752 was overwhelming.
 
Old 01-11-2020, 09:40 AM
 
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I was a day late in my prediction that the shooting down of the jet would be blamed on Trump.


This morning on NPR the host said to the guest that there were some people that are saying the plane would not have been shot down if Trump hadn't murdered Salami. They also said in typical Liberal fashion that Trump should have alerted the Iranian authorities that he was going to strike Salami and not invade the country because after the hit the military was on high alert and waiting for trouble...


Oh yeah blame Trump the perpetual punching bag for all that is wrong in the world. How typical.
Nearly 9 million passengers a year depart from or land in Tehran each year and have done so without incident.

It seems reasonable to conclude that if General Soleimani had not been taken out, it’s likely this flight would not have been taken out.

The General was killed in Iraq, not Iran. The US has not invaded Iran.

There does not seem to be any question Soleimani was a bad guy. The world is full of bad guys. Why was he targeted? Perhaps more importantly, why now? He was replaced with a clone.

The international community, including Israel, strongly urged Trump to deescalate. Trump moderated his rhetoric.

What plays well at a Trump rally, does not go over well in the world.
 
Old 01-11-2020, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Many flights departed before and after the targeted flight.

Rarely do those responsible immediately take ownership for tragedies, like plane crashes. Boeing and the FAA are recent examples. Then there’s the “ disappearance ” of Malaysia Flt 370.

Obviously, the evidence about the demise of Ukrainian Air # 752 was overwhelming.
It sure appears they were attempting to avoid blame, right up until 2AM today. They had to know they fired the missiles immediately but they were going to shift the blame.
 
Old 01-11-2020, 09:56 AM
 
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Nearly 9 million passengers a year depart from or land in Tehran each year and have done so without incident.

It seems reasonable to conclude that if General Soleimani had not been taken out, it’s likely this flight would not have been taken out.

The General was killed in Iraq, not Iran. The US has not invaded Iran.

There does not seem to be any question Soleimani was a bad guy. The world is full of bad guys. Why was he targeted? Perhaps more importantly, why now? He was replaced with a clone.

The international community, including Israel, strongly urged Trump to deescalate. Trump moderated his rhetoric.

What plays well at a Trump rally, does not go over well in the world.
This is exactly why these military actions are so dangerous, unintended consequences.
170 innocent people dead.
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