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Old 01-13-2020, 11:09 AM
 
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WHO SAID APPROVALS NEEDED. In Govt nothing is carried out by a lone Wolf . It’s their process to discuss these things, any complaints Obama did not discuss with his need to knows? Now mrT said it doesn’t matter if there were planned attacks on the embassies mentioned prior?
He is back tracking - not me!
I guess when you said he didnt confer with congress you were just filling your post with useless nonsense.
Of course Trump discussed this with someone he wouldnt even know the guy existed unless someone discussed it with him and telling him taking him out was an option.
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:11 AM
 
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Umm... iran was under rule of monarchy for 2500 years before 1978. This nonsense about us "installing a puppet" is just that. He was the shah before 1953 and was the shah after soviet puppet mossadegh destroyed their economy and was overthrown BY HIS OWN PEOPLE.
The operation Ajax story is a farce concocted by the CIA to save their asses in the mid sixties. After 1978 it made them look worse and of course the left loved that story for their america bashing.
There is no f-ing way kermit roosevelt over rode the democratic will of 20 million people with $10,000, hiring circus acrobats and hookers.
Funny the CIA lost all the records to support those claims.
Well...you were there when it all happened, as a CIA agent....so you should know. It's no secret what the US has done the world over to destabilize areas and to prop up proxy states during the "cold war".
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:17 AM
 
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If you set the chain of events in motion, you are responsible. Iran would not have shot it down had it not thought that it was under attack from the US. Why did it think that? It thought that because in had fired missiles into Iraq in retaliation for the US which fired a missile into Iraq killing one of its top generals. This all emanated from the US backing out of a deal signed with Iran made by a former US president, with other nations on board with the agreement. The US unilaterally reneged on the agreement and then started taunting and pressuring Iran. Suffice it to say that those passengers who lost their lives would still be alive today had not Trump breached a signed agreement between the two nations.
Those people would be alive today if the Iranian terrorist hadnt made a career out of inciting violence throughout the region.
The effectiveness of that ageeement is highly questionable.
Clinton made agreements with NK in the 90s. How did that work out?
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:18 AM
 
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Think of it like this. Someone is robbing a bank. There is an armed security guard at the bank. Shots are exchanged between the security guard and the robbers, but the security guard accidentally shoots and kills a teller. Who is ultimately responsible for that death.....the security guard or the robbers?
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:20 AM
 
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Those people would be alive today if the Iranian terrorist hadnt made a career out of inciting violence throughout the region.
The effectiveness of that ageeement is highly questionable.
Clinton made agreements with NK in the 90s. How did that work out?
Maybe he would have never became a terrorist if not for Western involvement in their region.
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:22 AM
 
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Think of it like this. Someone is robbing a bank. There is an armed security guard at the bank. Shots are exchanged between the security guard and the robbers, but the security guard accidentally shoots and kills a teller. Who is ultimately responsible for that death.....the security guard or the robbers?
That's a really stupid analogy, but I imagine making the US out to be "bank robbers" likely pleases your Russian handlers.

The US killing terrorist leaders in retaliation for attacks on US soil obviously is not in any way similar to robbing a bank.

Iran is responsible for shooting down their own airline, no one made them do it. Their incompetence is the only one to blame, but I get that the Russian propaganda has to be different.
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:24 AM
 
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Well...you were there when it all happened, as a CIA agent....so you should know. It's no secret what the US has done the world over to destabilize areas and to prop up proxy states during the "cold war".
This man WAS there and calls the story bullsh*t:

http://www.aryamehr.org/eng/19august/28mordad.htm

Yeah the US won the cold war. Is that a problem, Ivan?
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:29 AM
 
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That's a really stupid analogy, but I imagine making the US out to be "bank robbers" likely pleases your Russian handlers.

The US killing terrorist leaders in retaliation for attacks on US soil obviously is not in any way similar to robbing a bank.

Iran is responsible for shooting down their own airline, no one made them do it. Their incompetence is the only one to blame, but I get that the Russian propaganda has to be different.
I am only making judgement based upon the way I know this country operates, being a descendant of enslaved Americans. I know how America likes to ignore the wrongs it has done to people in order to narrate a people as "bad" and behaving that their condition and behavior is "unprovoked".

I have no Russian handlers. My handler is the TRUTH.

Yes...the US is the robber in the region.
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:29 AM
 
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Maybe he would have never became a terrorist if not for Western involvement in their region.
Silly ignorant leftist response. Our involvement in Iraq is from invitation by Saudi Arabia and Kuwait in their defense after Iraq invaded.
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:32 AM
 
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I am only making judgement based upon the way I know this country operates, being a descendant of enslaved Americans.
LOL, again, one day they'll set you free and we'll celebrate that victory together!
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