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Old 01-14-2020, 09:43 AM
 
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No, but Trump should have put it in the correct context. "Some" are murderers and rapist, but a much lower percentage than white Americans. He purposely implied they are worse, when in fact they Latino population is better than average. He does this to churn up hate and divisiveness, so he can have a scapegoat and boggeyman to get votes.

Simply that.
Thats BS. Illegal immigrants are well known to be underrepresented in crime stats. You cannot draw meaningful conclusions from stats because when illegals get robbed or raped they dont report it to police.
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Old 01-14-2020, 09:55 AM
 
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Plenty of people in the U.S. who have Mexican heritage and aren't illegals.

They have every right to be offended by what Trump said.
The fact is those people identify with illegals because they share skin color with them. They neednt be offended if they chose to call themselves americans instead of mexicans. They refuse to assimilate. La reconquista is on.
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Thats BS. Illegal immigrants are well known to be underrepresented in crime stats. You cannot draw meaningful conclusions from stats because when illegals get robbed or raped they dont report it to police.
Really? Got stats to back that up? So what's the "true" number?
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Old 01-14-2020, 11:40 AM
 
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Why would Hispanic citizens of Mexican heritage be offended by Trump stating that many here illegally are criminals? What does that have to do with them as they are citizens of our country and Trump wasn't talking about them.

Should I be offended if those of my ethnic or racial background here illegally get called criminals if they are? That makes no sense at all!
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Old 01-14-2020, 11:47 AM
 
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Not "Latinos". Invaders. Not all Latinos are invaders. But the group the OP mentioned is a group of invaders by their own admission.

If you come here to change the politics of the country, you are an invader and you need to be kept out or expelled if you manage to get in.
Right, who's demonizing Latinos here legally per se? They should however not put their ethnic group above our immigration laws. Any American should be demonized for that selfish, anti-laws mindset no matter who they are. Where's the xenophobia and nativism objecting to illegal immigration? The haters in here always use those words but never explain how the objection above warrants those kinds of labels. It's all they've got when they try to hide their own advocacy for illegal immigration based on sharing an ethnicity with them.
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Old 01-14-2020, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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Really? Got stats to back that up? So what's the "true" number?
https://crimeresearch.org/2018/01/im...s-crime-rates/

In Arizona (and it’s likely to be similar elsewhere), more than twice as likely to commit a crime, and police departments, even in Democrat-controlled cities, say that crime by illegals is under reported. Illegals prey on other illegal aliens in the vicinity, and no one wants to report it because they fear deportation.
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Old 01-14-2020, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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https://crimeresearch.org/2018/01/im...s-crime-rates/

In Arizona (and it’s likely to be similar elsewhere), more than twice as likely to commit a crime, and police departments, even in Democrat-controlled cities, say that crime by illegals is under reported. Illegals prey on other illegal aliens in the vicinity, and no one wants to report it because they fear deportation.
John Lott? That guy is a discredited fraud who shills for the NRA. Thank you very much.
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Old 01-14-2020, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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The fact is those people identify with illegals because they share skin color with them. They neednt be offended if they chose to call themselves americans instead of mexicans. They refuse to assimilate. La reconquista is on.
Your post actually proves the point about how fearful nativists broadbrush Mexican Americans as not legitimate Americans.

Aren't you from San Diego? Your guy Pete Wilson tried that gambit in 1994 and it p******* off Latinos in California for decades afterwards.
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Old 01-14-2020, 03:30 PM
 
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As the citizens of this country move from Puerto Rico to Florida, Texas etc. They should keep in mind how Trump treated them with their vote against him.
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Old 01-14-2020, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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John Lott? That guy is a discredited fraud who shills for the NRA. Thank you very much.

Picky, picky. He used actual numbers. Is this one more to your liking?


https://apnews.com/b78a2a3c7b9d28c765ca3542e4581382

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Nearly 3 percent of illegal immigrants in Arizona end up in state prison or jail during the course of a year four times the rate of U.S. citizens and legal residents, according to a study that uses federal reimbursements for prisons and jails to try to calculate one of the most important yet elusive statistics in the immigration debate.
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