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Old 01-14-2020, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Originally Posted by Kracer View Post
the left embraces our enemies propaganda. you'd think the educated journalists would see through and explain to the American people, what is happening .


Obama was clearly indebted to Putin and worked to please him.


Trump has squashed putin economically and militarily. Russia is on a downswing thanks to trump.


Trump energized NATO, which is not good for putin.


Obama reduced our military to pree ww2 levels much to putin's pleasure.


Obama sold putin 20% of our uranium supply!


No, not even putin expected trump to win. putin was betting on Hillary the dolt.


To even suggest trump is owned by putin is beyond preposterous.
But, but Obama! Obama! Well, I did not see the Russians busting their tail to help Obama. Quite the contrary. They fought him at every juncture. Then they did everything they could to help Trump defeat his SoS. Your position seems rather indefensible as well as off topic.
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:02 AM
 
Location: United States
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Yup, we've gone full circle now with the whole Ukraine scandal. Now the Russians are trying to help out by hacking into Burisma. And who will gain from this, just like who gained in 2016 from the Russian hack into the DNC? Will Burisma emails end up on Wikileaks?

One thing is certain - Putin really wants Trump to win in 2020. Why is that?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/u...a-ukraine.html
You guys have nothing to worry about, the left leaning media all ensured us there is no Biden corruption, so this hack couldn't possibly interfere with the election. LoL


I can't tell you how much I love seeing the dems, and the media so desperate that they are trying the Russian hacking bit again.
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:22 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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BTW, there is a good chance that Trump ordered the drone strike on the Iranian at Putin's bidding.

Look at the timeline.

Shortly before the attack, Lavrov visits Trump in the Oval Office, and Trump has a phone conversation with Putin where they talk about matters of "mutual interest."
Meanwhile, in the real world..


After a U.S. drone was shot down in June 2019, Trump was urged to take out Soleimani.
"But Trump rejected the idea, saying he'd take that step only if Iran crossed his red line: killing an American. The president's message was "that's only on the table if they hit Americans," according to a person briefed on the discussion."

On Dec 27 2019, "a U.S. contractor was killed and four U.S. service members were wounded".
A week later, on Jan 3 2020, Soleimani was killed in the drone strike. Trump had kept his word. Obama probably wouldn't have done anything to his pal, other than just drawn another red line in the sand, for optics.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...tions-n1113271
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Old 01-14-2020, 11:55 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Let's See.
"According to "security experts" +
NY Times =
Fake News.

Not one shred of proof given that any of it is true.


Only the truly stupid and/or deranged believe this nonsense anymore.
You realize the security firm that identified the hacking was called out by name, right? Try reading the whole article.

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Old 01-14-2020, 12:03 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
BTW, there is a good chance that Trump ordered the drone strike on the Iranian at Putin's bidding.

Look at the timeline.

Shortly before the attack, Lavrov visits Trump in the Oval Office, and Trump has a phone conversation with Putin where they talk about matters of "mutual interest."
hilarious. russia made trump attack their iranian allies?

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You've got some nerve telling other posters to "get a grip" after posting crap like the above!

no doubt, that grip slipped a long time ago.
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Old 01-14-2020, 12:25 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Weakening NATO, weakening US credibility in the world, surrendering Syria to Russia, allowing Russians to take over Libya, destabilizing ME. They own him, so they'll get him to do just about anything.
I'd say that's a VERY good rundown. Pretty much spells it out.

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But, but Obama! Obama! Well, I did not see the Russians busting their tail to help Obama. Quite the contrary. They fought him at every juncture. Then they did everything they could to help Trump defeat his SoS. Your position seems rather indefensible as well as off topic.
Per the usual.
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Old 01-14-2020, 12:49 PM
 
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You're lying.

The article doesn't even support your absurd claim. It specifically says that the author doesn't know what the hackers were looking for.
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Old 01-14-2020, 12:58 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Yup, we've gone full circle now with the whole Ukraine scandal. Now the Russians are trying to help out by hacking into Burisma. And who will gain from this, just like who gained in 2016 from the Russian hack into the DNC? Will Burisma emails end up on Wikileaks?

One thing is certain - Putin really wants Trump to win in 2020. Why is that?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/u...a-ukraine.html





LOL!!!!
Collusion - 3.0


We still don't have proof the DNC was hacked...... and they think people are fools.
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Old 01-14-2020, 01:22 PM
 
Location: United States
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Weakening NATO, weakening US credibility in the world, surrendering Syria to Russia, allowing Russians to take over Libya, destabilizing ME. They own him, so they'll get him to do just about anything.
1. NATO is stronger, and better funded than ever.

2. Libya was destroyed by Hillary, and Obama.

3. There is no less stability in the ME than anytime in decades.

God, total, and complete fail.
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Old 01-14-2020, 01:25 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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1. NATO is stronger, and better funded than ever.

2. Libya was destroyed by Hillary, and Obama.

3. There is no less stability in the ME than anytime in decades.

God, total, and complete fail.
'round these parts, that's called a 'finny special'
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