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Old 01-15-2020, 07:52 AM
 
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People are oddly acting like large countries don't try and manipulate our elections. Are people living under rocks? Don't you think we do the same thing? Heck the USA overthrew Saddam H! We wanted Gorbachev in there and did whatever we could to get him elected This kind of thing has been going on for many forever.

It is all meaningless, but the media is acting like it is new. I also don't think Russia wants Trump in office, but there may be hackers or whatever that do. So what? Not really a story as presented. Just normal everyday life.
No, gg. It is not meaningless. Nor is it harmless. The President of the United States has decided that our national sovereignty is less significant than his own political performance.
This is not "everyday, normal life". And btw, Trump's actions and strategy were against the law.
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Old 01-15-2020, 08:14 AM
 
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No, gg. It is not meaningless. Nor is it harmless. The President of the United States has decided that our national sovereignty is less significant than his own political performance.
This is not "everyday, normal life". And btw, Trump's actions and strategy were against the law.
lala land for sure here
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Old 01-15-2020, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I find the whole Hunter Biden deal completely boring and a waste of time.

Did he get paid for his name? Yes
Was he qualified for the job? No
Was it to get influence? Likely
But then I see Ivanka and Jared in the Whitehouse, shrug and move on.

In the real world (outside of political bs) people use their name and access to get ahead. I have never heard of a Vanderbilt or a Kennedy working minimum wage at McDonalds it Walmart. They always seem to be doing just fine, even the dumb ones.

If my name carried influence it would be stupid for my children not to use it to get ahead. Who tells their children to struggle and scrape by when they have a better option for them.

So much BS on this forums these days, it’s why we see the same few posters for everything. No one new comes here and sticks around because there is little real debate anymore.
First of all, all Ivanka and Jared are only working as advisors, the taxpayers are not paying them any salary.

Secondly, they already had jobs before their daddy went into politics, unlike Hunter, who only gets these million dollar jobs because his daddy is a big shot, corruptocrat politician.
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Old 01-15-2020, 12:35 PM
 
Location: United States
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No, gg. It is not meaningless. Nor is it harmless. The President of the United States has decided that our national sovereignty is less significant than his own political performance.
This is not "everyday, normal life". And btw, Trump's actions and strategy were against the law.
Then why didn't the House democrats even allege a crime was committed in their articles of impeachment?
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Old 01-15-2020, 12:58 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Hillary's private database with classified info was far easier to hack than Burisma.


Why do we hear Russia, Russia, Russia when we know darn well other players are hacking databases?????


Why are the dems giving cover to Russia while allowing china, NK, Iran et al to have their way with US databases????????????
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Old 01-15-2020, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Then why didn't the House democrats even allege a crime was committed in their articles of impeachment?
These democrats think that simply by repeating the rhetoric of claiming Trump broke the law, that they can make it so.

None of their impeachment articles even cite a federal law which they think was broken. It's sure as he'll not against federal law for a president to appeal an act of House overreach to the Supreme Court
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Old 01-15-2020, 05:05 PM
 
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The Bidens didn't kill themselves.

Just trying to get ahead of the story.
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Old 01-15-2020, 05:06 PM
 
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If the cyber fingerprints said it was Russia, I guarantee it wasn't. Too easy to disguise who and where you are. It was probably the CIA or some Dem hacker.
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Old 01-15-2020, 05:21 PM
 
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I find the whole Hunter Biden deal completely boring and a waste of time.

Did he get paid for his name? Yes
Was he qualified for the job? No
Was it to get influence? Likely
But then I see Ivanka and Jared in the Whitehouse, shrug and move on.
Let's be clear the Ukkies weren't paying Hunter Biden for his name. He was not promoting some event. They were paying him 50k a month, so he could stuff it up his nose, so they could lobby his dad, the current VP at the time. That's called bribery by a foreign government to influence US foreign policy - everything Democrats claim to be against.

Now Ivanka and Jared in the Whitehouse is a different thing altogether, its nepotism. But not bribery.

I'm interested in what they find, the Russkies. If we can verify it, why not? If there can be an establishment of quid pro quo between US foreign policy when Biden was VP and hiring his son, then that's potentially very serious.
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Old 01-15-2020, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Boulder, CO
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Wait! Didn't Bathouse Barry tell that silly man-guy to Thstop it?

Then he drew another pink line in the sand !


Tho There !
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