JCPOA was never intended to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons...

[Listener2307]

Originally Posted by TwoByFour

Obama and Kerry were very upfront that the JCPOA was only a 10-year fix. Iran was within a year of have a nuke without it, and the feeling was that delaying them for 10-years gave time to work on a longer agreement. So the clock is again ticking on Iran - they are once again within a year of having a nuke. The only way to prevent that now is to invade them, something that Trump has said over and over he will not do. So what is his end game here?

Horsepooky. Not based on fact at all.


What? ....... "All non-invaded countries will develop nuclear weapons"?

[DRob4JC]

Originally Posted by TwoByFour

Obama and Kerry were very upfront that the JCPOA was only a 10-year fix. Iran was within a year of have a nuke without it, and the feeling was that delaying them for 10-years gave time to work on a longer agreement. So the clock is again ticking on Iran - they are once again within a year of having a nuke. The only way to prevent that now is to invade them, something that Trump has said over and over he will not do. So what is his end game here?

Were they? Please provide a link...

Originally Posted by TEPLimey

Complaining that the JCPOA was merely a band-aid and then ripping off the band-aid without any alternative just to watch the wound bleed all over the place is something only an imbecile would consider great planning.

I think now that the deal is toast, the old UN sanctions are back in play.

Part of those "sunset" regulations include removing all UN sanctions by 2025.

[dozerbear]

Originally Posted by TEPLimey

Do you have a link to these "reports" or are they just nonsense fabircated by Sara Carter, GatewayPundit, etc...?

Well, there's this:

The head of Iran’s Atomic Energy Organization, Ali Akbar Salehi, has said that Tehran cheated on the 2015 nuclear agreement with the 5+1 Powers (US, UK, France, Germany, China, and Russia).

Salehi was trying to rebuff criticism from Iran’s hardliners who have said the Rouhani Government is too weak in its approach to the West.

https://eaworldview.com/2019/01/iran...-nuclear-deal/

And this from July 2016

Germany’s domestic intelligence agency said in its annual report that Iran has a “clandestine” effort to seek illicit nuclear technology and equipment from German companies “at what is, even by international standards, a quantitatively high level.”

https://www.cfr.org/blog/iran-cheating-nuclear-deal

This:

Prior to Implementation Day but after the
JCPOA was finalized in July 2015, Iranian agents approached US defense contractors with
statements that sanctions had ended and requested to buy goods. Their supply would have
violated US trade control and sanction laws.

And this:

The Institute for Science and International Security has learned that Iran’s Atomic Energy
Organization (AEOI) recently made an attempt to purchase tons of controlled carbon fiber from
a country. This attempt occurred after Implementation Day of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of
Action (JCPOA). The attempt to acquire carbon fiber was denied by the supplier and its
government.

http://isis-online.org/isis-reports/...r-procurement/

The Iranians also cheated on the interim 2013 nuclear deal.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...oking-n1998896

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by Listener2307

That's pretty much the way I see it. If Iran had been serious about developing nuclear for power only, they would have simply continued to do so.
But they were never serious. They planned to develop weapons all along.

Then why did they tell the Bush Administration back in 2002?

The only reason you know anything at all is because the Iranian Delegation to the UN made a special trip to D.C. to talk privately with Bush.

The Iranians were seeking US help to get the the dual reactors at Bushwehr up and running.

If you need a little background, the US and Iran had been secretly working together for years.

From 1994-1998 the Clinton Administration illegally gave money to Pakistan for the express purpose of buying weapons from Iran and shipping them to Albania where al-Qaida second-in-command al-Zawahiri (later killed in a drone strike) smuggled them into Kosovo-Metohija and Bosnia.

CIA and VEVAK agents were side-by-side in the same room inspecting the arms shipments.

The US did not want manpad air defense systems introduced into the region like Grails, Gremlins or Gimlets for obvious reasons.

The Iranians thought maybe they could build on this trust and working relationship and get the US to supply enriched Uranium and get the reactors back on-line, but Bush rebuffed them and labeled them the Axis of Evil.

I find it amusing you all are a fixated on centrifuges.

Wanna hint?

The US did not use centrifuges when it enriched enough U-235 for three weapons in 1945.

And it only took them 4 months.

Yeah, 1945. This is 2019.