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If the goal was to block enough GOP votes for a quick dismissal then mission accomplished. If you do or don’t think Trump did anything wrong then it would not change your mind. The hold was targeted at Senators from the beginning.
Yes, but there was never any effort by the Republicans in the senate to dismiss the articles, so that clearly wasn't Nancy's goal.
..just as many here predicted. now even cnn is abandoning her.
Pelosi is playing this perfectly. She knows the GOP will never do anything against Trump, but as time goes on even the Republicans are starting to soften to the possibilities of listening to the charges against Trump.
There should be no doubt in any logical person's mind that Trump is guilty. The more Pelosi holds out the more evidence that comes out. There will more evidence that comes up every week. Now the GOP will be on the record voting against removal when there is overwhelming evidence for impeachment and removal.
You already said that you will vote for the Democrat no matter who they sit.
There's no logic to that. Just blind partisanship. So we get where this is really coming from.
Pelosi is playing this perfectly. She knows the GOP will never do anything against Trump, but as time goes on even the Republicans are starting to soften to the possibilities of listening to the charges against Trump.
Patience Grasshopper, patience.
Thank you for admitting that this is nothing more than Democrats vs Republicans. Nothing more.
I don't know why people are saying that Pelosi failed. Sounds to me that she got what she wanted. Moscow Mitch and Linsey brownnose Graham wanted to outright dismiss the charges. Now they don't have enough votes to do that thanks to Pelosi holding out. Enough Republican Senators now want witnesses. Good job Pelosi.
I don't know why people are saying that Pelosi failed. Sounds to me that she got what she wanted. Moscow Mitch and Linsey brownnose Graham wanted to outright dismiss the charges. Now they don't have enough votes to do that thanks to Pelosi holding out. Enough Republican Senators now want witnesses. Good job Pelosi.
You do know that acquitting President Trump of the scam charges is a much better outcome than if the charges were straight up dismissed, right? Acquitting is basically saying "it went through the justice system and they found the president did absolutely nothing wrong, so he's now completely exonerated from any wrong doing".
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An acquittal is a final judgment in a criminal trial that the case against the defendant has not been proven beyond a reasonable doubt (often shortened to “not guilty”).
A dismissal is a ruling that the case cannot or will not proceed in its current state, and might be permitted to be refiled (“dismissed without prejudice”) or not (“dismissed with prejudice”). Dismissals may be based on the merits of the case, the evidence available, or simple procedural considerations.
Pelosi and Co would rather have it dismissed then to have it end in acquittal.
I don't know why people are saying that Pelosi failed. Sounds to me that she got what she wanted. Moscow Mitch and Linsey brownnose Graham wanted to outright dismiss the charges. Now they don't have enough votes to do that thanks to Pelosi holding out. Enough Republican Senators now want witnesses. Good job Pelosi.
That is verifiable false.
Mitch McConnell has stated from the very beginning that he wanted the Clinton impeachment process, not a dismissal.
You do know that acquitting President Trump of the scam charges is a much better outcome than if the charges were straight up dismissed, right? Acquitting is basically saying "it went through the justice system and they found the president did absolutely nothing wrong, so he's now completely exonerated from any wrong doing".
No, this isn't the judicial branch. Acquittal of impeachment means he's free of those charges. Just like Bill Clinton is free of the charge of lying under oath. Does anybody believe Clinton wasn't guilty? Not really. It just means his crime wasn't considered sufficiently grave for the Senate to kick him out of office.
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