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Old 01-17-2020, 08:39 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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So the truth doesn't matter even if it comes to light later?
The reason for governments all over push to tribalism, separating us into different groups..... At the drop of a dime, the government and their media mouthpieces, can have us fighting with each other. Watch the other hand, technique.
Government has never thought of the people as Americans. They split us up..... Government v. the People, in a power struggle. They would never have the power they do, if Americans are united.


Team Sports, make them think the penalty they got a flag for was a bad call..... Until instant replay came along and stuffed it back in their face and they still want to win so bad, because they HATE the other team, they can't accept the truth.
Any human in a WAR, will use everything they have to win.


If you don't think this is WAR, take the blinders off.
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Old 01-17-2020, 08:40 AM
 
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The House should have brought executive privilege to the court. Oh well.
What Executive Privilege? Trump never asserted Executive Privilege - in instructed the entire Executive to ignore subpoenas whether or not the subpoenas sought information that could be protected by Executive Privilege.
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Old 01-17-2020, 08:40 AM
 
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Of course he will not be removed, because the GOP controls the senate.

He has been formally impeached, and that will be a permanent stain on his presidency forever, as long as the United States still exists. That makes me happy.
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Old 01-17-2020, 08:49 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I'll go on record and say he won't be removed. Not because he doesn't deserve to be removed, but because McConnell and the GOP don't have the balls to do the right thing. However, removed or not, he will always be impeached. That's good enough for me.
100% party-line impeachment = Fake impeachment

That is what needs to be remembered.
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Old 01-17-2020, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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Team Sports, make them think the penalty they got a flag for was a bad call..... Until instant replay came along and stuffed it back in their face and they still want to win so bad, because they HATE the other team, they can't accept the truth.
Any human in a WAR, will use everything they have to win.


If you don't think this is WAR, take the blinders off.
That is more or less the theory behind so-called realpolitik - that it is all a struggle and anything goes to win. Realpolitik is more often applied to international politics but perhaps our country is so divided that the principle now applies to domestic politics as well.

I hope we haven't reached that level. Realpolitik abandons morals and ethics. I think most politicians, both Pubs and Dems, are still ethical people but both are getting close to crossing the line at times.
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Old 01-17-2020, 09:09 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I think most politicians, both Pubs and Dems, are still ethical people but both are getting close to crossing the line at times.
Nope. I'm not convinced.
The Masks got removed 11 years ago and the makeup has been used the last 3, to cover up the ugly.
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Old 01-17-2020, 09:20 AM
 
Location: DFW
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There isn’t any case , none at all. It is simply just another chapter in a long list of efforts to remove the POTUs from Office. It started before the election, continued to the first steps to change the votes of the Electors, then to Lawsuits and challenges based on opinions by left leaning academia and MSM talking heads. And then of course, was the 2 1/2 year Russian Collusion Hoax. The fact that Nancy still believes in it, incredibly she mentioned it in her speech the other day. After their star witness failed miserably, they still can’t give it up. They just can’t come to grips that they are not in the White House.

You nailed it. We've seen 3.5 years of Dem hysteria of trying to bring every false charge they can against Trump. This in the eyes of many voters is just 1 more of many desperate attempts to get him out of office.

Turley also nailed it when he said the Dems have made a joke of the process and made it a whole lot easier to do this in the future.

It is no longer a Solemn Serious event.

Did you see the celebration and the personalized $275 autographed pens pelosi passed out?

Very serious indeed.
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Old 01-17-2020, 09:27 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You nailed it. We've seen 3.5 years of Dem hysteria of trying to bring every false charge they can against Trump. This in the eyes of many voters is just 1 more of many desperate attempts to get him out of office.

Turley also nailed it when he said the Dems have made a joke of the process and made it a whole lot easier to do this in the future.

It is no longer a Solemn Serious event.

Did you see the celebration and the personalized $275 autographed pens pelosi passed out?

Very serious indeed.
Did You Know: The Supreme Court ruled unanimously that the Obama Administration violated federal law in 44 separate instances. Clinton violated federal law 31 times, and Bush 30.
And none of those were impeachable offenses.... Go figure


They the mentally ill, cannot believe Trump has not violated any federal law. Not one, even after a political rectal exam daily.
So, they are going to fabricate a law, from thin air to "convict" .... They have completely lost what little minds they had left.
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Old 01-17-2020, 09:32 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The door was opened by the GOP because of a sexual activity between 2 consenting adults. Bill decided to lie and created his impeachment. The Senate decided by 1 vote that was not worthy of removal. The DOJ created a memo, after this event, saying that a POTUS should not be investigated.

Today Trump has lied continuously from not knowing the people working for him to his payoff of a sexual affair during the birth of his youngest son. Currently Trump has been running the Gov't like a crime gang with all things being allowed even those against the Constitution and law.
Trump has paid off 2 fines on white collar crimes he committed since he took office. The DOJ has some memo, not a law mind you, a memo. That's says a POTUS when doing wrong should not be investigated.

Currently Trump has been proven to have Abused his Office by seeking a bribe on a foreign nation. To attack his opponent for the office.
To continue that he has Obstructed Congress in their lawful oversite capacity. Trump has openly told his staff to not honor lawful subpoenas. Not allowing Documents (which belong to us) to be disclosed. The ones he allowed have only deepened Trump's problems.

So I see that if the Senate really hold's a trial, Trump will be removed.
You mean that the "Feelings Police" got their feelings hurt themselves? Retribution, is all they have.
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Old 01-17-2020, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Hard to imagine how Trump/GOP-controlled Senate would remove him no matter what he did, and how often he is impeached.
The Dims partisan impeachment show about nothing gives no reason for impeachment other than TDS...but TDS is so strong, I would expect the Dims to impeach Trump again if they get the chance after his acquittal(s). I also expect Trump to be glad if he is impeached more than any President in history.
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