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If the NRA and politicians don't support common sense gun control laws, expect more of this!
I keep warning the gun nuts that if they don't bring common sense gun control measures to the table, circumstances will eventually dictate extreme gun control measures.
If the NRA and politicians don't support common sense gun control laws, expect more of this!
I keep warning the gun nuts that if they don't bring common sense gun control measures to the table, circumstances will eventually dictate extreme gun control measures.
How about you define gun nut.. When you start by calling names, who will take you seriously? Listen, we seldom agree, but I can usually respect your position. Trump calls names.... People of small minds call names. You never struck me as a small minded person. I do mean that as a compliment.
Theres NO WAY they could check every single person, that would be totally impractical, they will likely check as many as they can , but they cannot check everyone.
Capitol Square is multiple blocks in each direction so setting up checkpoints for the entrances will be easy. The general public can't drive in. The square has it's own perimeter of fences and additional fence six foot high has been added. Just think airport TSA. As their using 100's of VA State Troupers there will be multiple frisks.
This is not going to be like Charlottesville as there was minimal Police presence and the using of useless four foot fences around a park.
corpgypsy claimed that the 223 made a 6" x 10" hole. Anyone who has ever shot anything like that knows that is not true.
Corpgypsy did no such thing. Stop telling everyone else what they know and say and mean. I never mentioned a 223. I wouldn't know a 223 from a Boeing 747.
Types of weapons and the devastatingly different damage from those weapons of war vs regular type guns was my point. You and others, frequently, in numerous other threads, as well as this one, mock posters in an effort to divert the discussion by use of semantics and nuanced mumbo jumbo of shell casings and material and length of guns and bullets and handles etc. All in an attempt to dismiss those like myself with opposing views on gun safety and the need for legislation of certain types of machines and ammunition that we think belong on a battlefield and not on our streets. You know those automatic and assault types of killing machines that you pretend don't exist because we used the wrong phrase. Playing that gotcha, you are wrong game is transparently a way to change the narrative when a poster uses an incorrect layman's term regarding guns. Just look at what this thread was about...a sensible temporary ban of carrying intimidating weapons at a rally where the threat of violence is high.
The damage from certain types of guns vs others was my point as you once again were denying the damage those in the medical field face because by using this word vs that word means they are "lying and stupid"( YOUR words). I'd had it with that type of disingenuous debate and shared for the first time here on CD what my eyes have seen.
The kid who gets shot in the shoulder from a pistol or other type of handgun or that week-end warrior hunting accident, those are the "normal/average" ( god forbid that we are calling this normal) type of injuries we are accustomed to seeing; and internal damage is most likely fixable. But the massive injury and devastating irreparable damage that occurs from those other weapons are indeed significantly different, and I was fed up with the macho, chest thumping, foreign language usage to change the narrative of those who have an opposing view of the need for gun legislation in these United States of America. Calling surgeons stupid and liars was the last straw.
There are a percentage of you out there who do not care to consider any other viewpoint or side of this very serious problem and United States issue, and the use of name calling and gotcha tactics to claim a win and shut down an opposing opinion is clearly empowering to you. But do not tell me what I know and think again, dear.
The ballot box is clearly the only place to work on this. Bravo to Virginians who have demonstrated common sense and concern for the well being of the general public of their commonwealth!
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In essence its no different than the permanent ban in detention centers, court rooms or the 'No firearm' signs put up by many businesses.
Are you disappointed you can't go and wave your AR in the air? If so, you will get over it.
Yes its different. The fictional entity known as the government cant legitimately own anything, which means it cant make rules prohibiting or restricting others.
I recognize in advance that you'll have a hard time wrapping your state made mind around the concept
..... Why don't we start with common sense felon control? Maybe stop releasing criminals to prey on the public, stop importing criminals, stop decriminalizing theft. Nothing a democrat believes in is common sense.
As the public is armed in VA, this translates to extremely low criminal related violence using guns. The statistics prove it.
As they both show multiple year charts, Those shot and injured or killed in relation to crime averages 600 people per year across the entire state.
So for example, NYC itself is a much higher number ( they don't use actual numbers in their stats. They use numbers per 100,000 and cherry pick the parts they use for their stats). So you'll have to take out a calculator to figure out their actual numbers) with their strict gun control measures.
As they both show multiple year charts, Those shot and injured or killed in relation to crime averages 600 people per year across the entire state.
So for example, NYC itself is a much higher number ( they don't use actual numbers in their stats. They use numbers per 100,000 and cherry pick the parts they use for their stats). So you'll have to take out a calculator to figure out their actual numbers) with their strict gun control measures.
Thus as you've stated, Nothing a democrat believes in is common sense or even reality.
I don't think the Governor is concerned about Virginia citizens. There was a gun rally just last week sponsored by the NRA that did not have a gun ban and, for some reason, did not attract national attention. It was small, quiet, and peaceful.
There have been credible threats from out of state extremist organizations who have posted all sorts of threatening rhetoric that are organizing to come to this thing. In fact, some suspected extremists were arrested in Maryland the other day and there is evidence to indicate they were specifically organizing to come to the Virginia rally to start trouble. All from out of state, to include a few illegal immigrants that we helping to go along for the ride.
Correct. The Constitution supersedes state laws and/or state governors' executive orders/actions.
This is why it's important to appoint as many Constitutionalist judges to the federal courts as possible. And saying a federal judge is a Constitutionalist should already be redundant. They swear an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic." Just hold them to it, or if they violate their sworn oath, impeach and remove them.
Which is why Trump's appointments are so IMPORTANT.
IMO, MANY state laws WILL be challenged once we get 1 more "Constitutionalist" judge on the Supreme Court.
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When you start by calling names, who will take you seriously? Listen, we seldom agree, but I can usually respect your position. Trump calls names.... People of small minds call names. You never struck me as a small minded person. I do mean that as a compliment.
