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Old 01-16-2020, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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I wonder if McConnell, GOP, Trump supporters will even care that Trump's withholding Ukraine was illegal? Seems illegality is in the eye of the beholder these days.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tru...ffice-n1117031
The thing that gets me is the absolute outrage from the Democrats, and the absolute outrage just because it was Trump.

If the same rule and the same rage from the Democrats/left would happen with a Democrat President in office, if they were accused of the same thing, it would be easier to digest this whole thing with Trump and impeachment.

But the whole thing is so dang hypocritical and political. Everytime Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler, etc., cry that they are impeaching Trump because he did not "uphold the Constitution," I want to just roll my eyes, because they know it's not that reason, we know it's not that reason and they are up there pretending everyone is stupid.

It's a total Democrat game and Trump was impeached because he is not part of their DC club and DC swamp. He has disrupted everything, and exposed too much, and now they find it's late in the game and they are panicked because the election is in 10 months and counting, and they are losing badly.
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Old 01-16-2020, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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I wonder if McConnell, GOP, Trump supporters will even care that Trump's withholding Ukraine was illegal? Seems illegality is in the eye of the beholder these days.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tru...ffice-n1117031
Barr will not go after him.
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Old 01-16-2020, 03:44 PM
 
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I think the Democrats should Impeach him over it.





HAW........
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Old 01-16-2020, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Six years? March 2, 2016 was less than four years ago. Is this an example of Trump math?

good catch, i agree, they've been trying to impeach him since 6 months before the 2016 election.

My bad......
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Old 01-16-2020, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Well, there is that.

If audience size is the criteria, then Rod Stewart should be POTUS.

Beyonce usually can gather a crowd as well.


Great!

Now name a Democrat politician that can do the same thing.
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Old 01-16-2020, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Don't think the GAO is part of the legal system... not that anyone cares about laws anymore... we just make proclamations and it's final. Trump broke the law because the some people in the GAO said so.

Laws are overrated.
The GAO is not a law enforcement agency or prosecutorial agency. It's not even part of the executive branch.

If they think that a law was broken, the thing to do would be to forward the info to the DOJ--not to the media. This is sheer grandstanding.

GAO has an annual budget over $600,000...your tax dollars at work.

I heard a law professor interviewed about this earlier today. His take was that no laws were broken.
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Old 01-16-2020, 04:42 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Yeah, Obama was a perfect angel.
If you say so. That's certainly not what my post said that you quoted.
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Old 01-16-2020, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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If you say so. That's certainly not what my post said that you quoted.
Are you suggesting Obama never invoked Executive Privilege?

Trump did too!

The Dems in the House cowardly didn't bring ANY of their balsa wood "subpoenas" to COURT!

This rushed, then delayed farce of an Impeachment, is a STAIN on the radical House Democrats!

Not an asterisk on the so far GREAT legacy of the Trump presidency!

Enjoy!
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Old 01-16-2020, 04:53 PM
 
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Not for me.

I want to see the Senate do its job.

Reagan and Bush skated on Iran/Contra.

Nixon skated on Watergate.

Bush II and Cheney skated on Iraq/Afghanistan.

If the Senate can't put a halt to Trump and his co-conspirators committing crimes left and right, Republicans will do away with the rule of law altogether.

They'll run Putin for POTUS next.
I'd LOVE for Trump to be removed. But I'm prepared to settle for impeachment. I don't expect the Senate to do their jobs. They haven't thus far.
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Old 01-16-2020, 04:55 PM
 
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I'd LOVE for Trump to be removed. But I'm prepared to settle for impeachment. I don't expect the Senate to do their jobs. They haven't thus far.
Not only will he not be removed. Many Dems senators will vote for acquittal
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