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Old 01-17-2020, 10:43 PM
 
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Nothing that China has agreed to, however, departs markedly from what it agreed to during the Obama administration. In 2015, President Barack Obama and Premier Xi Jinping announced an end to cyber-intellectual property theft and embarked on a next round of negotiations over market access. By 2016, many experts believed that China was indeed upholding its commitments, more or less, and the two countries were meeting regularly to hash out issues.

After two years of tariffs and mounting hostility, however, the agreement struck has cost the United States more than $30 billion to subsidize American farmers to compensate for Beijing’s retaliatory refusal to buy American agricultural goods. It has cost American consumers tens of billions in tariffs. It has forced U.S. companies to diversify their supply chains out of China at an additional cost of many billions.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-china-t...183752169.html

The smoke and mirrors grifter who breaks things and then pretends to make progress by leaps and bounds by bringing them back to where they were before he broke them.
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Old 01-18-2020, 12:00 AM
 
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The smoke and mirrors grifter who breaks things and then pretends to make progress by leaps and bounds by bringing them back to where they were before he broke them.

Yup, even the typical Trump cult followers on CNBC said, "The real test will be Phase 2 but Trump said it probably won't happen until after the election."

LOL. Smoke and mirrors indeed.


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Old 01-18-2020, 05:00 AM
 
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That seems a rather biased article starting with the headline and filled with words like: "more or less", "should be", "modestly", etc.

No substance whatsoever.

What I would like to see is an unbiased summary of the new deal, the previous deal, and how they differ. Seems like a no brainer, but probably impossible in this political climate.
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Old 01-18-2020, 05:18 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Democrats hate Economic success and winning.

When it happens you are no longer dependent on Big Govt and the Allowance they steal from others.
That's why this great Economy, Jobs and Wage increases is such a disaster.

Obama was only hoping that those American Jobs were gone forever.
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Old 01-18-2020, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Democrats hate Economic success and winning.

When it happens you are no longer dependent on Big Govt and the Allowance they steal from others.
That's why this great Economy, Jobs and Wage increases is such a disaster.

Obama was only hoping that those American Jobs were gone forever.
So explain the upside of this trade deal that makes it historic rather than ranting.
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Old 01-18-2020, 05:52 AM
 
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Democrats hate Economic success and winning.

When it happens you are no longer dependent on Big Govt and the Allowance they steal from others.
That's why this great Economy, Jobs and Wage increases is such a disaster.

Obama was only hoping that those American Jobs were gone forever.
There's zero difference between today and the Obama economy. Historically weak GDP growth and extreme inequality has been par for the course.

Why should we be surprised by this when Goldman Sachs fund both sides of the isle? They know what they are doing. Labor loses and the top 0.1% wins.
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Old 01-18-2020, 06:13 AM
 
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The deal is necessary and part of the job but yes, it is nothing that will change the world of trading with China.
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Old 01-18-2020, 06:21 AM
 
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Democrats hate Economic success and winning.

When it happens you are no longer dependent on Big Govt and the Allowance they steal from others.
That's why this great Economy, Jobs and Wage increases is such a disaster.

Obama was only hoping that those American Jobs were gone forever.
What a ridiculous thing to say.

Job growth began with Obama and was positive for 76 months before Trump took over. Trump has 35 months of positive job growth.

Job growth hasn't grown significantly -- it has continued at the same pace.

We are in the longest recovery of our economic history -- 10 years......Trump has been around for 1/3rd of that.

There's a great article floating around about how the slow, steady, chugging along economy is part of a bigger picture that started in the 80's and that even the biggest recession we've ever seen couldn't stop it.
I posted a link a while back and will go through my posts to see if I could find it.
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Old 01-18-2020, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I think every president has made a deal with China going back to Nixon. And here we are. These deals are ALL smoke and mirrors and pretty much ignored by China. Corporate America profits immensely from Chinese trade. That it is punishing to America's working class is, for them and the government they bought, utterly irrelevant
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Old 01-18-2020, 07:00 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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DJT was snookered.
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