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Old 01-18-2020, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I was pre-sorted into that box long before this thread was ever started !!! Proves my point though !!!
No, you are free to define your views, but dont want to, you just want to show your adoration and support for your leader.

If you did have clear views / principles, it would be very hard being a Trump supporter, because you can support his view one day, only to see him reverse it the next day.
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Old 01-18-2020, 08:50 AM
 
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Then they should start cracking as opposed to trying to bully local LE to carry their water.
If the left had their way they would make LE carry water !!! In squirt guns !!!
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Old 01-18-2020, 08:59 AM
 
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Give the sanctuary areas what they want. Autonomy to treat illegals the way they want. Feds should pull all of their resources and money from these areas.
I'm not a fan of the sanctuary city.

But I do support the USA treating illegal residents who have been here for more than 10 years in a more humane way. Especially if their only crime is living here illegally -- they have jobs, families, are students, Put them in the system -- give green cards......Some of these people have been checking with ICE for years and have been made to feel that there is a chance they would be given status. So if they haven't robbed a bank, beat up somebody, blah blah-- give them that green card and put them in the system.
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Old 01-18-2020, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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The GOP loves states rights, except when they don’t. They are a bunch of principle-free troglodytes.


The concept of state's rights don't give the states the right to violate, ignore or attempt to hinder the enforcement of Constitutional federal law.
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Old 01-18-2020, 09:05 AM
 
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States Rights matter when the law and issue is left to the pervue of the States. One of the few things the Constitution allows the Feds to do is Border enforcement and dealing with ILLEGAL ALIENS. This is a FEDERAL ISSUE, not a State. So, the states all agreed to the Constitution when they became states, did they not?


You are clueless as usual. Not a State's Rights issue at all. Stop trying to deceive.
Bingo !!! We have a winner so the states rights narrative is over !!! What else needs to be dispelled ?
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Old 01-18-2020, 09:07 AM
 
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I'm not a fan of the sanctuary city.

But I do support the USA treating illegal residents who have been here for more than 10 years in a more humane way. Especially if their only crime is living here illegally -- they have jobs, families, are students, Put them in the system -- give green cards......Some of these people have been checking with ICE for years and have been made to feel that there is a chance they would be given status. So if they haven't robbed a bank, beat up somebody, blah blah-- give them that green card and put them in the system.
How do you know who has been here more than 10 years ? Just ask them and take their word for it ?

Did they register in the parking lot before getting on the back of the work truck ?
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Old 01-18-2020, 09:14 AM
 
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ICE subpoenas Denver law enforcement, its a first !!! Never happend before !!! Historic !!!

ICE wants information and they are intent on getting what they want !!! Good for them !!!

Interesting to see if the government can police the government !!! What an experiment !!!



ICE subpoenas Denver law enforcement
https://thehill.com/latino/478495-ic...aw-enforcement
Imagine this happening in SFO. The screaming hysterics from liberals would be epic.
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Old 01-18-2020, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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You can look at my posting history and find my support for states rights is quite consistent, unlike outcome-based “principles” espoused by current GOP.

If the Federal Government wants to empower States to perform immigration enforcement functions, then we can have a different conversation about how they should implement that policy. But until then, people like you are just pissing into the wind with your complaints about enforcing existing law.


There is a big difference between states not wanting to spend time and taxes on enforcement of federal law and actively attempting to prevent it's enforcement.

If a state is adamant enough about the issue to actually proclaim themselves to be a sanctuary state (or city) ...

Then it's a pretty safe bet that they're leaning towards the latter.
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Old 01-18-2020, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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So, others get to define your views.....? You MUST be a Trump supporter to say something like that.

I sort you into the Trump-Box, meaning you'll support whatever he says, be it right, left, middle, or whatever else. A leaf being blown around in the wind.



Sorry to burst your bubble, but people who support Trump don't have to support or agree with everything he says or does in order to support him.


Did everyone on the Left rubber stamp support everything that Obama said and did ?

Probably not, but they continued to support him anyways because they were looking at the big picture.

Are there blind exceptions on both sides?

Sure.

But the majority of Trump supporters are just looking at the big picture, just like Obama supportes did.

We can support the overall policies without freaking out over everything he says, does or tweets.
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Old 01-18-2020, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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“Don’t tread on me, except sometimes.”

Border enforcement is NOT A STATE'S RIGHTS ISSUE. It is one of the few things in the Constitution that is solely a Federal Government Issue. Stop being dishonest. The states and cities are BOUND BY LAW to assist the Feds, not make their own law.
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