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Old 01-19-2020, 06:34 PM
 
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I disagree that is what he was doing. His history is hardly Pro American.
Again, the Iranian people did the right thing so it hardly matters why Sanders took that position. We had it coming and we got it. If the United States has a right to defend itself, then one must surmise that self defense is a righteous universal principle that Iran had every right to invoke.

Either you understand geopolitics or you don’t. The United States isn’t the only nation allowed to assert itself
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Old 01-19-2020, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I disagree that is what he was doing. His history is hardly Pro American.
They were doing the same thing our Founders were doing, fighting a tyrannical government that was using force against them.
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Old 01-20-2020, 10:52 AM
 
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There are multiple threads here today (I myself started one) that do show that leftists are very supportive of the Iranian regime, terrorism and all.

Bernie would probably help them build their nuclear arsenal against the Evil American Empire.

(Nope, not Bernie. Not Warren. The only sane one is Biden, and he's losing his marbles.)
Iran is gonna get a nuke regardless.
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Old 01-20-2020, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Bernie's go way too much past radical baggage like this which is why the DNC's tossing him out of their clown car....again.

I thought they'd toss Warren out of it too, but then I saw the NY Times endorsed Warren. Maybe Warren doesn't have as much damning evidence out there as Bernie does?
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Old 01-20-2020, 11:18 AM
 
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It is difficult for some to see situations from the other's POV.

That way we always have an enemy to defeat/or kill rather than finding a resolution to a dilemma.

What would the Iran is our sworn enemy crowd think if China imposed their will on the USA and put their chosen one in as our leader?

The USA needs to mind their own business and keep their noses out of other country's elections and politics.

It has not one damn thing to do with keeping Americans safe. This meddling is to keep American owned businesses profitable.
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Old 01-20-2020, 11:19 AM
 
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Iran is gonna get a nuke regardless.
Just like Tom Lehrer told us 50 years ago in his tune "Who's Next".

Listened to the entire 'That Was The Week That Was' album.

Nothings changed in over 50 years. All that time money and politicking. We're in the sam place only now the enemy is the ME.

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Old 01-20-2020, 11:47 AM
 
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Bernie was a full blown Soviet in 1979. And the Soviets were allies of Iran.
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Old 01-20-2020, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Bernie has always been on the wrong side of history.
Sanders was not wrong.

The use of US Embassy Mission Tehran as a base for military and espionage activities automatically voids the protections of the Vienna Conventions.

In other words, the Embassy Mission becomes a military base subject to attack and not a US diplomatic mission on sovereign US soil protected from attack.

Additionally, the fact that President Carter sent General Huyser to US Embassy Mission Tehran for the express purpose of meeting with Iranian army commanders to instigate a military coup and take over the government is an Act of War under International Law.

No doubt about it.

The response by Iran was totally appropriate and within the letter and spirit of the law.

If you or the US have issues with that, then you should cease violating International Law and cease instigating coups of foreign governments.

If the tables were turned, you would have done exactly what Iranians did and don't say you wouldn't.

Do unto others, then bomb them when they get angry is not exactly good Foreign Policy and not a way to win hearts and minds.

That's a good way to have someone anonymously detonate three 450 kiloton nukes about 85 miles above Earth right over the US and then watch 320 Million Americans slaughter each other mercilessly for the last scraps of food until there's only a few Million Americans left (and they're cannibalizing each other for food).
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Old 01-20-2020, 04:49 PM
 
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Bernie was a full blown Soviet in 1979. And the Soviets were allies of Iran.
So was the United States....until we weren’t. Shrug.

Bernie is irrelevant here because the Iranians did the right thing. That’s all there is to it
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