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Old 01-20-2020, 03:47 PM
 
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So be a bum and see how far that gets you.

I worked my butt off to get where I am. My house is paid off(paid it off in less than 3 damned years). My car will be paid off in a few months. Yup, hard work gets you no where..

I guess, I'm old fashioned, Believe in values. Believe in working for a what I get. No free handouts...

I take care of my own. Pay my way...

Pfff...

 
Old 01-20-2020, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by banjomike View Post
Why work hard when rich conservative oligarchs will steal most of it no matter how hard you work?
They aren't the ones wanting higher taxes and handouts. That's you.
 
Old 01-20-2020, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Why work hard when idiot liberals like to hand out free money?
Mostly because working earns you 10 times more.

You have to ask?
 
Old 01-20-2020, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Working hard for an employer has certain odds of being able to get ahead.

Working hard for yourself in your own business has higher odds of being able to get ahead. Much higher.

I just wish I had learned this sooner because I'd be a top 1%'er instead of top 2%'er, and the chasm between the two groups makes a crack in your driveway look like the Grand Canyon.

I grinded it out in Fortune 500 America for 20 years, and broke 6 figures, but then I hit the glass ceiling.

I started my own business, worked my butt off, and now I'm semi-retired prior to turning 60. I work when I want.

Just avoid restaurants and traditional retail businesses. Don't pay for a franchise either...unless its a Chik-Fil-A. Find a business that has customers who return to buy again and gain if you exceed their expectations. Repeat business is a must.
 
Old 01-20-2020, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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You're running in place, your boss is running in place, and his boss is running in place.

10% of the wealthiest stockholders own 84% of all stocks. The richest 1% now own half the world's wealth.

They aren't giving any of it up either. While their money keeps piling up by the split-second, everyone else is only running in place, so far behind they can't even see these guys with binoculars.
Hush!! These guys think they are running with the winners.
 
Old 01-20-2020, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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And soon the types of people that make these comments grow up at some point in time. The key to a better life is having steady employment. Hopefully you can buy a house and grind out enough money to pay the mortgage off in 30 years. It's not sexy or glamorous. But nobody is going to give this to you. I'm in my 50s and have a few more years left on my mortgage and once that's paid off I'll be comfortable. I've enjoyed the journey. I can look back and be proud of my work. It's a very rewarding feeling. Nobody ever gave me anything, I had to work for it.


Let's face it, the younger generation doesn't want to work. They want instant gratification or they start spewing garbage talk about socialism. Fact of the matter is somebody has to produce or any economic system will collapse. Sorry youngsters, there is no shortcut.
 
Old 01-20-2020, 03:54 PM
 
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Dude, I worked at Home Depot and never once took my apron off to do tasks. After three months of hard work, they offered me a promotion to manager of the flooring department.


Still, I do agree that hard work alone is not enough for a person to be able to make it. Neither is a college degree. It takes networking, luck, willingness to move or take a job you don't like, maybe changing careers... and even then there's no guarantee. The US has a lot of jobs, but a crap-ton of them aren't going to make anyone rich.
Ya, I stuck with it for a few years. Had my eye on leaving that place. I would not wanna be manager at retail.
Im in a better job now with the field that Im in.

I do miss my co workers though. One year I Worked overnights, and we had some good times. Friend lived nearby so we’d go to his house during lunch and enjoy a few beers. Lol. Hell one of my managers at the time showed up with some bud at the same house after the company Christmas party.

Crummy job but good times.

My current job is more professional so I had to chill out from all that. Even in this job better, Im still looking ahead. It’s not my last stop. It’s like my foots in the door but I know I want more creative freedom.

My friend works at a recording studio and offered me to work with him on some projects. If that takes off then I can hop out of here.

In the end it’s probably better to work for yourself.
 
Old 01-20-2020, 03:57 PM
 
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And soon the types of people that make these comments grow up at some point in time. The key to a better life is having steady employment. Hopefully you can buy a house and grind out enough money to pay the mortgage off in 30 years. It's not sexy or glamorous. But nobody is going to give this to you. I'm in my 50s and have a few more years left on my mortgage and once that's paid off I'll be comfortable. I've enjoyed the journey. I can look back and be proud of my work. It's a very rewarding feeling. Nobody ever gave me anything, I had to work for it.


Let's face it, the younger generation doesn't want to work. They want instant gratification or they start spewing garbage talk about socialism. Fact of the matter is somebody has to produce or any economic system will collapse. Sorry youngsters, there is no shortcut.
We wanna work, but we see through the corporate bs.
I never stayed in a job more than I needed to. Im mot about to kiss a* either...
 
Old 01-20-2020, 04:02 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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I remember working at depot. There was a survey in the break room where you “test your knowledge” in other departments such as plumbing.
You put your name in it. So I guess it was a cheap prize for people who got the most answers right.

But the other prize is now you work another department for the same pay. So they won’t hire anyone else.

Fun Fact: if you ever wondered why you don’t see employees in the departments, it’s because we take off our aprons to get a task done for our supervisor. Makes us invisible to customers to avoid our task not being done before lunch or before we leave...
You're speaking to a population which mostly voted for Hillary. And, no, they would not believe that their own merit is the best fuel toward their success.
The rest of us, the ones who do see virtue and promise in hard work, will continue to pull the train. We were always aware that there would be a great many passengers.
 
Old 01-20-2020, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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The whole point is that you’re running in place, unless your nose is brown, best look towards the next job like rock in a stream..


Searching out the next employer when your current one isn't providing a path forward is part of the long term strategy to improve yourself and advance your career.

Looking for the next rung on the ladder is part of "working hard".

I had more jobs when I was younger than I care to admit.

I'd give them a chance to recognize what I was bringing to their company and treat me accordingly....

But if they didn't I was always looking for a step up and if that meant going to another company...... adios MF.

(But always leave on good terms)
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