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Old 01-20-2020, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Long Island,NY
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It might, if it had ever happened..........the funding was merely delayed, as is common and quite legal. Ukraine got it's funds within the allotted time limit and there never was an investigation.....
Try again maybe.....?
Sorry, don't think so. The OMB has ruled the withholding as illegal. Another reason mcconnell will commit hari-kari before he allows witness and new evidence in the trial.
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Old 01-20-2020, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island,NY
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Biden's brother is the next one on the hot seat. Watch this take off this week. The whole family is a crime syndicate.


How five members of Joe Biden's family got rich through his connections --- https://nypost.com/2019/10/15/joe-bi...-off-his-name/

Frank Biden’s long history of using his family name to secure contracts in Florida
https://nypost.com/2020/01/17/frank-...ts-in-florida/

‘Profiles in Corruption’ Reveals How the ‘Biden Five’ Made Millions Off Joe Biden Connections -- https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...n-connections/
Stop the presses. HEADLINE NEWS!!!! Politicians family makes money off of family name!!! Film at 11! Just more diversion from the facts that were withheld from the public.

I say bring it on. witness for witness, trump loses that war.
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Old 01-20-2020, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Long Island,NY
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Too bad he was simply asking Ukraine to look into corruption during the 2016 election. Nothing wrong with that. No value in it for him, personally. No solicitation. No felony. No nothing. Someone’s interpretation of the phone call has no merit or value. He never asked for anything in return for anything,
Man gets arrested for buying drugs. At the trial his defense is I never asked the undercover narc for marijuana. I asked for a nickel bag. NO QUID PRO QUO!
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Old 01-21-2020, 03:05 AM
 
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Joe Biden is the felon.

https://youtu.be/jxrR6dmzpCI
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Old 01-21-2020, 03:16 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Amazing that Bill Clinton was charged with 11 felonies and yet that wasn't enough for the senate dems to oust him from office.

Trump is charged with no felonies and Dems are losing their crap if he isnt ousted.


Also don’t forget that Bill Clinton was still a hero to the Dems and was the number one campaigner of his wife who ran with full support from the party
But Bill's a democrat. And you know that means kid gloves. Trump ruined Crooked Hillary's dream.
Different story.
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Old 01-21-2020, 07:04 AM
 
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The call in question did not reflect that. Who keeps telling you it did.
Have you even read the call transcript? It sure sounds like you have not yourself, but are relying what someone told you to say.
One more time, there is no transcript. There is a summary of what the listeners thought they heard.
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Old 01-21-2020, 07:14 AM
 
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The true fact is: The Republicans wish to shoot the messenger instead of absorbing the severity of their fallable leader.
An adult with reason would weigh all facts,statements and evidence before jumping on the 'psst... Let's pretend that our emperor is wearing clothes'.
I don't care for this charade of political alligience.
When the leader of a Nation is called to the carpet,it's best to serve the ppl and the justice before stooping to this cover up.
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Old 01-21-2020, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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I found an interesting article about Andrew Jackson's impeachment. One article of impeachment accused Johnson of illegally removing Secretary of War Edward Stanton from office. He opposed the presidents policies.

There is a difference between opposing a policy and removing someone to put in place a corrupt policy to gain influence for a foreign power to illegally interfere in our election. There is more to this than a phone call with a transcript released by the accused, as the simple minded kool aid drinkers want to believe. Low information emotional fact-less rhetoric is all they have because they know in their hearts that what Trump did was not only wrong, it was illegal. It's like an abused spouse that keeps going back to her abusive husband because "I love him." We all know that a sitting president can not be indicted until after leaving office. We also know that he is an unindicted co-conspirator with his felony campaign finance violations for the cover ups that his fixer sits in prison for.

The Biden's are corrupt because they used name recognition to make money? Is that illegal? Where is the crime? If you want to say one side is wrong for doing it, then where is the criticism for Ivanka sitting in on sensitive meetings in China and getting her trade marks shortly after. That's what? Okay because she's on team Trump? I don't think so.

Has Biden had a foundation closed for corruption and graft? No. Did Biden con $25 million that had to be paid back from setting up a crooked university? No. That's not talked about by team Trump though is it. Look over there.

Our founders could not have anticipated what a high crime and misdemeanor could possibly have looked like in our time. There will never be a judicial review to determine that because a president charged in Congress can not take it before the supreme court. It is solely the responsibility of Congress to charge a sitting president. It is solely the responsibility of the Senate to try the case for removal.

Team Trump can cry foul, spin. lie. deflect, and cry because they're butt hurt for losing the house in 2018, which started the whole impeachment process. They can live in a land where feelings are more important than facts, be tribal, hateful, and not want to see the facts. The trolls who post their garbage can feed their families, there's nothing illegal in spreading lies and vitriol. There is a difference between awful and unlawful.

Can you impeach a president for not committing a crime? Yes, because a sitting president can not be charged with a crime. If that weak argument succeeds, we will no longer have a Democratic Republic. No crooked, corrupt president should be in office just because "we like him." The stakes are too high for future presidents to lie, cheat and steal at our expense. No one man is worth that.
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Old 01-21-2020, 08:53 AM
 
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Then why hasn’t he been charged with a felony?
Trump (supported by his DoJ) has argued that he cannot be charged with a felony while President and that the sole remedy for alleged wrongdoing by the President is impeachment. Given that argument, you can hardly claim that the absence of a felony charge is reason not to impeach. Your logic is transparently circular.
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Old 01-22-2020, 09:43 AM
 
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Trump (supported by his DoJ) has argued that he cannot be charged with a felony while President and that the sole remedy for alleged wrongdoing by the President is impeachment. Given that argument, you can hardly claim that the absence of a felony charge is reason not to impeach. Your logic is transparently circular.

Bunch of nothing in your answer. Why didn’t the house charge him with things like “bribery” and “treason” ?
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