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The Dems were blocked at every turn. I guess they figured they didn't have the five years it would take to go through the courts. So they used the evidence they were able to get and impeached him. Thank goodness for that.
That's exactly it.
Trump planned to run out the clock and then get re-elected with the backing of Putin and whoever else he could rustle up to help out.
McConnell and the Republicans were fine with that. The bill to oppose foreign involvement in our elections languishes in the Senate.
Democrats have soldiered on while Trump and the Republicans whine about snitches, bellyache about the process, block testimony and documents while complaining that there should be more testimony and documents. , criticize and insult Democrats, lie about how impeachment in unconstitutional, and peddle Putin's propaganda in an attempt to divert the attention of the more dimwitted amount us.
No, the Dems don't want the Senate to do their work for them. They just want the Senate to do their own jobs, which means allowing evidence and witnesses. I've never heard of a trial that didn't have either one, and I worked in the legal field for over 30 years. Gotta give you props for parroting Sekulow's, et al.'s talking points though. They've got a ton of 'em, and I see them posted daily on CD. You guys really do pay attention to your puppet masters.
lmao ...thus has nothing to do with the legal field, it's a political exercise.. Didn't you figure that out when the House never pursued going to the court to force testimony? They never considered it a legal exercise, why do you continue to?
they told us they had overwhelming evidence...where is it?
of course they told us that during the Russian hoax.... the only thing the House Democrats have proven is how grossly incompetent they are.
The Dems were blocked at every turn. I guess they figured they didn't have the five years it would take to go through the courts. So they used the evidence they were able to get and impeached him. Thank goodness for that.
Try again - the SCOTUS completed review and ruled in 2 months on Nixon's executive privilege and 4 months on Clinton's. If they started this process when they first talked about it in Nov, they may have already had their ruling. They were probably worried about a ruling against them.
They never issued a proper subpoena for witnesses or information - probably didn't know that did you. The problem is they would have had to allow Republican witnesses also.
But to your point, if there is evidence then why do they need more testimony?
The Dems were blocked at every turn. I guess they figured they didn't have the five years it would take to go through the courts. So they used the evidence they were able to get and impeached him. Thank goodness for that.
Five years to go through the Court system ? That means if the Senate subpoenas all the people the Dems want subpoenaed, Trump's 2nd term will be over before the court rulings.
Supposedly this is a Trial. Jurors (Senators) are required to be present and are restricted to the Chamber (unless you are a Senator from Tennessee going to an interview with FOX NEWS). The are supposed to NOT DISCUSS the case with others, not even other Jurors.
If that is the case we have a MISTRIAL happening or we have to dismiss those jurors who have gone on television.
it is just another SCAM
It is a Senate trial. To be fair, I don't think a Senate trial follows trial law rules. I don't think a mistrial call can happen unless the rules aren't followed.
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Originally Posted by trobesmom
The Dems were blocked at every turn. I guess they figured they didn't have the five years it would take to go through the courts. So they used the evidence they were able to get and impeached him. Thank goodness for that.
Trump would delay it just like the tax returns. That has taken four years.
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Originally Posted by skeddy
you better call Mitch and let him know, cuz he's not letting someone out on bail for felony indictments come and testify in front of the Senate....ain't happening pal... git your boys back together, issue some more subpeonas....lol these phony charges aren't even impeachable...
Moscow Mitch don't care. He just wants the Republicans to control it. As I've said before Pence is involved because why else would Trump not step down and Pence pardons him? At least that would remove Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House...
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That makes no sense. The legislative branch can't use the judicial branch to get at the executive branch. There's the US Constitution.
They already did. Or are you saying the ruling of U.S. V. Nixon is wrong?
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excellent strategy, cut corners and come up losers! A failed impeachment, I'm proud of the Dems too.
This will happen to the Republicans, especially if they do not have the witnesses called and dismiss in lockstep.
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould
That's exactly it.
Trump planned to run out the clock and then get re-elected with the backing of Putin and whoever else he could rustle up to help out.
McConnell and the Republicans were fine with that. The bill to oppose foreign involvement in our elections languishes in the Senate.
Democrats have soldiered on while Trump and the Republicans whine about snitches, bellyache about the process, block testimony and documents while complaining that there should be more testimony and documents. , criticize and insult Democrats, lie about how impeachment in unconstitutional, and peddle Putin's propaganda in an attempt to divert the attention of the more dimwitted amount us.
Yep. Republicans aren't about rule of law until it is a Democrat in the White House. They couldn't give two French Connetion United Kingdoms about it with Trump, a Republican in office. The Republicans are phonies. Not that Democrats are much better, but they haven't proven to be total utter hypocrites like Republicans have.
Expectation of privacy is different issue - 4th amendment. In a 2 party consent state - ALL parties must be informed and consent to being recorded for ANY conversation.
In FL, can't just record because it is in a public setting.
The recording, which was provided to the PBS NewsHour by a lawyer for one of the people who heard the original conversation, is said to be from a dinner in Washington, D.C., on April 30, 2018– a year before Yovanovitch was actually fired. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/...uld-be-removed
DC Wiretapping Law
The District of Columbia's wiretapping law is a "one-party consent" law. DC makes it a crime to record a phone call or conversation unless one party to the conversation consents. See D.C. Code § 23-542.
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