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Old 01-30-2020, 09:43 AM
 
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Defense Lawyers are paid to turn things around.
Wake up and smell the coffee.

Trump did it. He said he did it. His Chief of Staff said he did. NSA Bolton said he did it.

Dershowitz said he did it.
"The President can't be impeached if what he did was, in his opinion, in the public interest".

Horse-hockey! That equates with Richard Nixon: "When the President does it, that means it's not illegal"
And Look Where That Got Dick Nixon.


A trial without witnesses?
I bet there are a lot of Inmates in the US Correctional System, that wish they did not have witnesses
at their trial.

And yes, witnesses can be recalled in a court more than once.
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Old 01-30-2020, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Long Island,NY
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Exclamation Bribery and Articles

Have any of you trump supporters read the Articles? The evidence of bribery is spelled out quite clearly in fact the detail of impeachable acts could also be interpreted to include extortion. To say that he cannot be impeached for it because it doesn't include the word bribery is WRONG!!!

https://apps.npr.org/documents/docum...inst-President

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Old 01-30-2020, 09:51 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Schiff continues to lie saying he does not know the identity of the WB. Yeah Right.


https://twitter.com/shupe_laura/stat...42609212805120
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Old 01-30-2020, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Schiff continues to lie saying he does not know the identity of the WB. Yeah Right.


https://twitter.com/shupe_laura/stat...42609212805120
And trump continues to lie saying he doesn't know who John Bolton is. See how that works.
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Old 01-30-2020, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Tomorrow will be Celebration Day as this SHAM will be ended with a vote for Aquital!

I can't wait!
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Old 01-30-2020, 09:53 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Have any if you trump supporters read the Articles? The evidence of bribery is spelled out quite clearly in fact the detail of impeachable acts could also be interpreted to include extortion. To say that he cannot be impeached for it because it doesn't include the word bribery is WRONG!!!
Save us time and tell us what line that is clearly spelled out on. Should be easy since all the lines are numbered.
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Old 01-30-2020, 09:54 AM
 
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That's a stupid fake news article. Look at this preposterous lie: "[Trump's] presidency has been marked by repeated power grabs".
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Old 01-30-2020, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Long Island,NY
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You are correct that the prosecution must prove guilt. However, you got that second part wrong. In a trial the defense does not have to prove innocence, they only have to provide doubt to guilt. Trump’s motive as to why he withheld aid is the entire basis of the charges against him. If there was an alternative reason he withheld aid then he is not guilty. For instance, an employer may not like that his employee dates people of another race but the employee can’t claim they were fired based on discrimination if they were caught stealing (an actual case). Whether or not Trump had reason to believe Biden engaged in corruption is probably the single most important factor in his defense, if we are comparing it to a trial in the real world. Absolutely, both Bidens would appropriately be called as witnesses in a trial.
I find this opinion specious at best. This is not a criminal trial. BOTH sides SHOULD be working for the people, not the accused. To believe that republican resistance in both Houses of Congress has anything to do with defending our right to an untainted vote, the most sacrosanct of citizen's rights in this country is ridiculous. It's republican's partisanship that is in the wrong here. And the fact that trump voters DO NOT CARE is unfathomable!
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Old 01-30-2020, 10:09 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I find this opinion specious at best. This is not a criminal trial. BOTH sides SHOULD be working for the people, not the accused. To believe that republican resistance in both Houses of Congress has anything to do with defending our right to an untainted vote, the most sacrosanct of citizen's rights in this country is ridiculous. It's republican's partisanship that is in the wrong here. And the fact that trump voters DO NOT CARE is unfathomable!
The majority of americans, including independents, wanted to see witnesses. They know what a trial should look like.

This will likely backfire on Moscow Mitch.

Also - what up with Lindsay Graham??
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Old 01-30-2020, 10:10 AM
 
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Schiff continues to lie saying he does not know the identity of the WB. Yeah Right.

https://twitter.com/shupe_laura/stat...42609212805120
Even assuming the person accused of being the whistleblower is in fact the whistleblower, your little meme doesn't even have the alleged whistleblower's name spelled correctly. More importantly, it is not actually a picture of the alleged whistleblower, although the person pictured is Schiff's daughter's boyfriend and does apparently have the same first name as the alleged whistleblower.

https://www.politifact.com/facebook-...chiffs-family/

But keep spreading your lies. You only expose yourself more with each one.
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