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Old 01-21-2020, 03:04 PM
 
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The dems had their chance to call all witnesses and show documents. They got them all, except those the Prez choose to protect via EP.
Actually this is incorrect, as I believe you would know.

They did not get anything requested from the white house. The white house actually stated they would allow nothing at all.

Even the witnesses who did appear did so in spite of being ordered not to appear, and as far as I am aware no documents at all were released, except those which were inadvertently released through FOIA requests to third parties. This was complete stonewalling.

 
Old 01-21-2020, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Agreed, and now they have to present that inadequate case to the senate.

The democrats in the House willingly did not do what was necessary to make a compelling case for impeachment, now they have to live with that decision.
Well, they second article of impeachment will be dismissed. It sure as hell is not an impeachable offense for the president to cite his Right to executive privilege of his inner circle of advisors.
 
Old 01-21-2020, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Long Island,NY
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And what do you call that farce that the dems conducted in the house?
Do you call that getting at the truth?
Through out that entire dog and pony show, there was not one shred of verifiable evidence given.
It was all third hand BS .


Bob.
I get tired of this question. The House had enough to put forward articles of impeachment with the evidence they had, which was compromised by trump's edict to WITHHOLD ALL WITNESSES AND EVIDENCE. I cannot make it any clearer than that.
 
Old 01-21-2020, 03:08 PM
 
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Actually this is incorrect, as I believe you would know.

They did not get anything requested from the white house. The white house actually stated they would allow nothing at all.

Even the witnesses who did appear did so in spite of being ordered not to appear, and as far as I am aware no documents at all were released, except those which were inadvertently released through FOIA requests to third parties. This was complete stonewalling.

You do understand you are contradicting yourself in the post above, yes? (re: the bold)
 
Old 01-21-2020, 03:11 PM
 
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I get tired of this question. The House had enough to put forward articles of impeachment with the evidence they had, which was compromised by trump's edict to WITHHOLD ALL WITNESSES AND EVIDENCE. I cannot make it any clearer than that.

Then the senate SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM REMOVING TRUMP.....yes?
 
Old 01-21-2020, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Long Island,NY
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Well, they second article of impeachment will be dismissed. It sure as hell is not an impeachable offense for the president to cite his Right to executive privilege of his inner circle of advisors.
Is that your opinion or more fake news, because nowhere is that being reported.
 
Old 01-21-2020, 03:18 PM
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Location: California
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You do understand you are contradicting yourself in the post above, yes? (re: the bold)
Those are not contradictions. You're trying to invent them just like team Trump, inventing that the process was flawed because they can't defend his actions which he is charged with.
 
Old 01-21-2020, 03:21 PM
 
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Those are not contradictions. You're trying to invent them just like team Trump, inventing that the process was flawed because they can't defend his actions which he is charged with.

Do you have reading comprehension problems?



They got nothing...


But they got something...


How is that not contradicting?
 
Old 01-21-2020, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Long Island,NY
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Then the senate SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM REMOVING TRUMP.....yes?
Honestly, yes. Even in a criminal trial jurors are instructed that they should use common sense in deliberating. But that won't happen until the witnesses and evidence being held up by trump are entered into the trial because truth is not driving this only political expediency.
 
Old 01-21-2020, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Long Island,NY
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Do you have reading comprehension problems?



They got nothing...


But they got something...


How is that not contradicting?
Do you? What don't you understand about evidence and witnesses being denied?....
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