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Old 01-22-2020, 12:00 PM
 
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I wonder what the OP would think of Phoenix, AZ from a poverty and trash-concerned angle.
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Old 01-22-2020, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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North Philly, West Philly, and Southwest Philly are very high crime, poverty stricken ghettos to a large degree. However, there are bright spots. Many sections of the city have gentrified, and the area around Temple U. in North Philly is seeing positive change as is the areas west of U of P in West Philly. So it isn't all bad.
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Old 01-22-2020, 12:05 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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I had a social engagement in Bala Cynwyd and instead of traveling there via the Chestnut Hill/Germantown area as I normally would, I traveled via Broad Street through the heart of North Philly. I have to tell you it was quite a sad state of affairs. There was urban blight and decay as far as the eye could see. The streets were filled with poor, indigent people whose descendants will likely never escape the cycle of poverty. There is virtually zero corporate presence anywhere in the vicinity. Nary an office, a manufacturing plant, or even a Walmart. The only jobs the residents have access to are low paying, dead-end service jobs, and the only commerce they have access to are seedy, run-down stores who who bleed their customers dry because they have nowhere else to go. It's almost as if decades of voting for Venezuelan style socialism has failed the city miserably. Philadelphia city government is filled with despotic Democrats from top to bottom, who are elected based on false pretenses of social progress. These officials, by way of taxation, have embezzle wealth from the few productive individuals and entities left within the city, lined their own pockets, then their cronies who put them in office, and finally the few crumbs that are leftover after the skim are divided amongst the general public. The Democrat Party devolved from Martin Luther King, Jr.'s 'I have a dream' to 'I have a scheme'. I presume Donald Trump is less popular in the city than Adolf Hitler.

This city has not elected a Republican to any office in more than half a century. It's evident that Barack Hussein Obama did absolutely nothing for these people. The city is every bit as decayed as it was ten years ago when I drove through on a daily basis. After eight years of looting the public treasury, Mr. and Mrs. Obama are making millions and millions of dollars off of their celebrity status, while their core voting base continues to rot in the gutter. The profiteering off of poverty is inherent to socialist government. Along comes Bernie 'the Seltzer Man' Sanders and Elizabeth 'Stands with a Fist' Warren, two of the most dangerous individuals ever to enter United States politics. The city of Philadelphia is the poster child realization of their politics. Commerce, religion, and the nuclear family are scant whereas drugs, guns, and poverty are prolific. How insane does a person have to be to want this for the whole country?
But, yet, you didn't mention, for the benefit of people not familiar with Philadelphia, that Chestnut Hill and Germantown are neighborhoods in the city. . .you also failed to mention the large amount of gentrification going on in the city. That wouldn't fit with the picture that you wanted to paint, would it?

Interesting that you chose to post this here. Could it be that posters on the Philadelphia board would point out fallacies?

The River wards are gentrifying, as is University City and lower portions of North Philadelphia. As the neighborhoods gentrify, Ahold Delhaize is bringing in Giant Supermarkets. Aldi and Lidl are coming in too.

If you're looking for bad, you can find it in North Philly. But those people now have hope.

According to you, only Democrats have governed Philadelphia for all of those years. Care to explain Joan Spector?
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Old 01-22-2020, 12:07 PM
 
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Well for starters there was white flight and redlining practices.
Are you seriously going to pretend that whites weren't the victims in the white-flight scenario? And how is redlining supposed to have harmed black people? The red-lining thing doesn't even try to make sense.
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Old 01-22-2020, 12:12 PM
 
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I don't know of anything Trump is doing for Republican led cities, either, where crime is higher.

2018 citi-data crime rate for Philly: 446.6
2018 citi-data crime rate for Republican led Tulsa: 608.5
People in Tulsa actually report minor property crimes.
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Old 01-22-2020, 12:48 PM
 
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I had a social engagement in Bala Cynwyd and instead of traveling there via the Chestnut Hill/Germantown area as I normally would, I traveled via Broad Street through the heart of North Philly. I have to tell you it was quite a sad state of affairs. There was urban blight and decay as far as the eye could see. The streets were filled with poor, indigent people whose descendants will likely never escape the cycle of poverty. There is virtually zero corporate presence anywhere in the vicinity. Nary an office, a manufacturing plant, or even a Walmart. The only jobs the residents have access to are low paying, dead-end service jobs, and the only commerce they have access to are seedy, run-down stores who who bleed their customers dry because they have nowhere else to go. It's almost as if decades of voting for Venezuelan style socialism has failed the city miserably. Philadelphia city government is filled with despotic Democrats from top to bottom, who are elected based on false pretenses of social progress. These officials, by way of taxation, have embezzle wealth from the few productive individuals and entities left within the city, lined their own pockets, then their cronies who put them in office, and finally the few crumbs that are leftover after the skim are divided amongst the general public. The Democrat Party devolved from Martin Luther King, Jr.'s 'I have a dream' to 'I have a scheme'. I presume Donald Trump is less popular in the city than Adolf Hitler.

This city has not elected a Republican to any office in more than half a century. It's evident that Barack Hussein Obama did absolutely nothing for these people. The city is every bit as decayed as it was ten years ago when I drove through on a daily basis. After eight years of looting the public treasury, Mr. and Mrs. Obama are making millions and millions of dollars off of their celebrity status, while their core voting base continues to rot in the gutter. The profiteering off of poverty is inherent to socialist government. Along comes Bernie 'the Seltzer Man' Sanders and Elizabeth 'Stands with a Fist' Warren, two of the most dangerous individuals ever to enter United States politics. The city of Philadelphia is the poster child realization of their politics. Commerce, religion, and the nuclear family are scant whereas drugs, guns, and poverty are prolific. How insane does a person have to be to want this for the whole country?
Why do you see it as a legacy of liberalism.....as opposed to a legacy of slavery and racism? Oh....and by the way....I am glad you lived to tell about your journey.
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Old 01-22-2020, 12:51 PM
 
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They are also on SSDI or welfare benefits in equal, or greater, measures than those 'indigent' types in North Philly.
They need something to supplement their weed growing and meth cooking income.
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Old 01-22-2020, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Old Dominion
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RE white flight. Nothing says "welcome to stay" than having your business burned down like in the 1964 riots. I would have left also.
Oh right, because that is exactly when white flight started. Let’s just ignore the redlining and race based covenants as to who can buy in a neighborhood. Trust me there was middle class black flight as well, and white flight followed in a lot of areas. Look up Prince George’s county, MD.
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Old 01-22-2020, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Old Dominion
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Are you seriously going to pretend that whites weren't the victims in the white-flight scenario? And how is redlining supposed to have harmed black people? The red-lining thing doesn't even try to make sense.
What do you mean by the redlining thing doesn’t even try to make sense? Sorry the wording of this is pretty incoherent. I’ll concede that whites were victims of the real estate business that utilized block busting techniques to get their property at bargain basement pricing. What other ways were they victims?
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Old 01-22-2020, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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But at least they own larger swarths of land or at least by themselves occupy larger swarths of land. They can forage for their own fresh organic food.
The only foraging they are doing there is for oxy and meth ingredients.
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