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Old 01-23-2020, 05:52 AM
 
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Just saw this in the morning News.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...as/4546199002/
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Old 01-23-2020, 05:58 AM
 
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According to police, the bank's computer system read the check as fraudulent.
that being the case should the bank have cashed it anyway?

I suspect there is far more to the story.
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Old 01-23-2020, 06:04 AM
 
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that being the case should the bank have cashed it anyway?

I'm guessing there is far more to the story.
Like he said....if it had been a white man.....there is the difference. Black people do not get the benefit of the doubt to the degree whites do.

Today, in my opinion, racism comes out when people feel they have justification as a cover, because no one wants to appear racist to themselves or to others. This has been demonstrated in social experiments where a black person and white person are set up to commit the same seemingly "wrong" act. The black person gets treated a lot differently than the white person for the same act. The white person is given the benefit of the doubt (of not doing anything wrong)....the black person is assumed guilty. Again, the "wrongful" act provides "cover" from the claim of a racist motive. The racism is only exposed when a white person commits a similar...but gets a different reaction. How often do you get the chance to see a white person present the same scenario? Almost NEVER....so you can't see the inherent racism of it.
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Old 01-23-2020, 06:24 AM
 
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Like he said....if it had been a white man.....there is the difference. Black people do not get the benefit of the doubt to the degree whites do.

Today, in my opinion, racism comes out when people feel they have justification as a cover, because no one wants to appear racist to themselves or to others. This has been demonstrated in social experiments where a black person and white person are set up to commit the same seemingly "wrong" act. The black person gets treated a lot differently than the white person for the same act. The white person is given the benefit of the doubt (of not doing anything wrong)....the black person is assumed guilty. Again, the "wrongful" act provides "cover" from the claim of a racist motive. The racism is only exposed when a white person commits a similar...but gets a different reaction. How often do you get the chance to see a white person present the same scenario? Almost NEVER....so you can't see the inherent racism of it.
So would the argument be that the bank when presented with a seemingly fraudulent check from a white male would cash it regardless?
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Old 01-23-2020, 07:00 AM
 
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Oh well looks like he is about to get paid again. There is no check verification machine at the bank. GTFOH. They could’ve deposited the check and put a hold on it as that happens frequently with large checks. Then they charged him with fraud EVEN after he got an attorney on the phone verifying the source of the funds. If he sues they deserve it.
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Old 01-23-2020, 07:06 AM
 
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So would the argument be that the bank when presented with a seemingly fraudulent check from a white male would cash it regardless?
No...they would have likely performed more due diligence and sought out other sources of verification and not just assumed that the person was up to no good.
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Old 01-23-2020, 07:08 AM
 
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Oh well looks like he is about to get paid again. There is no check verification machine at the bank. GTFOH. They could’ve deposited the check and put a hold on it as that happens frequently with large checks. Then they charged him with fraud EVEN after he got an attorney on the phone verifying the source of the funds. If he sues they deserve it.
YEP. Tried to rep you but I have to spread more reps first. Hard to find people to rep on C-D. I don't give them out unless you really saying something.
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Old 01-23-2020, 07:12 AM
 
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No...they would have likely performed more due diligence and sought out other sources of verification and not just assumed that the person was up to no good.
So you have no factual evidence that would have happened. Can you rule out simple incompetence, not race as the cause? No.
Unless there are other facts not presented, I see no race based discrimination here.
And at the end of it all the check was cashed, so what more is he entitiled to?
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Old 01-23-2020, 07:13 AM
 
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Oh well looks like he is about to get paid again. There is no check verification machine at the bank. GTFOH. They could’ve deposited the check and put a hold on it as that happens frequently with large checks. Then they charged him with fraud EVEN after he got an attorney on the phone verifying the source of the funds. If he sues they deserve it.
Some great assumptions.
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Old 01-23-2020, 07:20 AM
 
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Like he said....if it had been a white man.....there is the difference. Black people do not get the benefit of the doubt to the degree whites do.

Today, in my opinion, racism comes out when people feel they have justification as a cover, because no one wants to appear racist to themselves or to others. This has been demonstrated in social experiments where a black person and white person are set up to commit the same seemingly "wrong" act. The black person gets treated a lot differently than the white person for the same act. The white person is given the benefit of the doubt (of not doing anything wrong)....the black person is assumed guilty. Again, the "wrongful" act provides "cover" from the claim of a racist motive. The racism is only exposed when a white person commits a similar...but gets a different reaction. How often do you get the chance to see a white person present the same scenario? Almost NEVER....so you can't see the inherent racism of it.
computer systems can't tell your race. If someone tried to cash a big check like that and didn't have the funds to cover it I would have been in big trouble had I done it. That would have to be ok'd by at least a manager or director.
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