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Old 01-24-2020, 01:35 PM
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Firing an ambassador for corrupt intentions is a crime... carry on.
Yep this. trump fired 46 US attorneys and is not being impeached for that.

In this case, trump went behind his own administration to make a secret deal through his personal atty - trading the removal of anti-corruption ambassador at the request of corrupt former Ukraine prosecutor in exchange for dirt on Biden.

 
Old 01-24-2020, 01:36 PM
 
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ABC News. Got them jumping like little circus ponies.



Yesterday it was Prince Charles, today it's something that "Might" have been said in private conversation in a restaurant, tomorrow it will be covfefe.



MSM says Jump, they say how high.
And what hallowed grounds do you get your information from? Fox News? Breitbart? The dark web?
 
Old 01-24-2020, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Boston
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No. He dragged her through the mud unnecessarily first in a fit of juvenile rage. Someone give him his pacifier back.
no what?
 
Old 01-24-2020, 01:40 PM
 
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Firing an ambassador for corrupt intentions is a crime... carry on.
No, it isn't.

Any President can fire any employee of the Executive Branch based on the time of day if they feel like it. That's a fact. That's why lots of US Attorneys typically quit when the Presidency changes hands...because they get purged every time the Oval Office gets a new resident.

And on the topic of ambassadors, almost every ambassador tenders their resignation to an incoming President-elect, with the 30% that are political appointees actually leaving, and some number of the 70% career ambassadors leaving, with most being allowed to finish out what is typically a three year tour. But every last one serves at the whim of the President. Period. They can fire them on any subsequent whim, period.

You have TDS, and I get that, but that doesn't make every day, ho hum, normal Executive Branch hirings and firings a felony just because Trump did them.

You do know that of the 93 US Attorneys Clinton had fired, several of them were actively working on cases AGAINST HIM, right? Convenient that in his purge, he did get rid of some flies buzzing around his corner of the swamp. And guess what? That was his prerogative as President, and the optics don't make it illegal or improper.
 
Old 01-24-2020, 01:42 PM
 
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Yep this. trump fired 46 US attorneys and is not being impeached for that.

In this case, trump went behind his own administration to make a secret deal through his personal atty - trading the removal of anti-corruption ambassador at the request of corrupt former Ukraine prosecutor in exchange for dirt on Biden.
Clinton fired 93 US attorneys, and he wasn't impeached for that.
 
Old 01-24-2020, 01:43 PM
 
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And what hallowed grounds do you get your information from? Fox News? Breitbart? The dark web?
Poor dear. You think the world should be filtered through political punditry.
 
Old 01-24-2020, 01:45 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Obviously, Trump can do anything he wants to at any time to anybody he wants to for any reason. This is our new normal.
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Please explain this wildly inane comment. How do you go from being able to fire someone because its within the scope of their role to being able to do being able to do anything to anyone? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. there is absolutely no connection between those two thoughts are we are all dumber for having read it. Are you able to hold employment?
There’s an easy explanation, TDS.
 
Old 01-24-2020, 01:45 PM
 
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You have TDS, and I get that, but that doesn't make every day, ho hum, normal Executive Branch hirings and firings a felony just because Trump did them.

You do know that of the 93 US Attorneys Clinton had fired, several of them were actively working on cases AGAINST HIM, right? Convenient that in his purge, he did get rid of some flies buzzing around his corner of the swamp. And guess what? That was his prerogative as President, and the optics don't make it illegal or improper.

They truly seem to have no thoughts on any of these matters until some MSM crank tells them "Orange Man Bad", and they go straight into tilt mode.
 
Old 01-24-2020, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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The same “non-partisan” ambassador who was an avowed member of the resist movement to the point that she refused to change the portrait of the President from Obama to Trump?

BTW all ambassadors serve at the pleasure of the President. He can recall them for any reason, or no reason. Why is that so hard to understand?
President Trump should have fired EVERY appointee from the previous administration. There are too many moles trying to sabotage him. I expect him to completely clean house before his next term.
 
Old 01-24-2020, 01:53 PM
 
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They truly seem to have no thoughts on any of these matters until some MSM crank tells them "Orange Man Bad", and they go straight into tilt mode.
None of them seem to understand how the Executive Branch of the US government functions. I was making this point to Dems under Bush, Republicans under Obama and now back to Dems under Trump - the office and the branch have a ton of power invested in one person, and that's by design. That power has grown substantially over time because Congress is a bunch of feckless cowards who long ago traded in doing their job in return for keeping their job. That's why we no longer get budgets and instead get "continuing spending resolutions" and why sticky decisions typically get blame shifted to the Oval Office, and why you have so many votes of "not voting" or "present."

And as time goes by, the office accumulates power. I told Republicans not to laugh too hard at Dubya's hijinks, because he'll get replaced by a Democrat with more power...and he did, and it wasn't funny anymore. I told Democrats not to laugh too hard at Obama's hijinks, because he'll get replaced by a Republican with more power...and he did, and it wasn't funny anymore. And so on and so on.

But nothing Trump is doing vis a vis Executive Branch firings and hirings is without precedent, and recent precedent at that. This is how that office and branch work. May peeve the opponent party off something fierce, but it's a bipartisan tradition going back forever and ever.
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