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did Obama lie when he said he didn't know bill ayres?
Bravo. Totally irrelevant to this topic. Bust since you brought this up--
Ayers himself had this to say about knowing Obama:
Obama and I sat on a board together; we lived in the same diverse and yet close-knit community; we sometimes passed in the bookstore. We didn’t pal around, and I had nothing to do with his positions.
No. I believe he did not lie. I believe he does not know him "personally" To President Trump, taking pictures with many fans and voters, he does not 'know" his fans name nor his voters names. I think Parnas is an opportunist who takes photos with many people. All of his photos look "poised" like "Hey can I get a photo with you?" That does not mean he "knows that person personally" and to President Trump, that is what he means when he says he does not know Parnas. Now if you can provide me with emails, texts, photos of them in an unstaged pose, then I would tell you President Trump likely knows Parnas on a person level. Please provide that to me. It is entirely possible this could be an attempt by Dem's to have pulled photos of them and are stirring the pot. ..
Reality belies your post.
Did Fox TV not air the recording of Trump and Parnas colluding to take care of the ambassador?
It's not that I believe the President. It's that you and your colleagues in this thread are telling insane lies about the ABC audio recordings. They do not have Trump telling Parnas to "take her out", and no rational person could think they do.
I haven't told a lie about the ABC recording. I've argued that it lends corroboration to Parnas' account of what happened. You've taken a hardline stance that everything Parnas says must be dismissed because he's a criminal (which is a tad ironic, because it invites further questions about why Trump chooses to keep close company with criminals, instead of "the best people").
If you're not willing to consider the recording in conjunction with what Parnas has said about his interactions with Trump, then you're right that the evidence is weak. Of course, that leads to an interesting thought exercise: Can we ever rely on evidence from bad actors like Parnas? It's worth noting that virtually all of the conspiracy convictions that made Rudy Giuliani a household name are built on testimonial evidence from criminals turning on fellow criminals. I wonder what those trials would've looked like if Rudy had said, "Nah, I'm not going to use that evidence because this guy is just trying to save his own skin."
It's not that I believe the President. It's that you and your colleagues in this thread are telling insane lies about the ABC audio recordings. They do not have Trump telling Parnas to "take her out", and no rational person could think they do.
It's off topic anyway. We should be concetrating on the official topic of this thread.
Bravo. Totally irrelevant to this topic. Bust since you brought this up--
Ayers himself had this to say about knowing Obama:
Obama and I sat on a board together; we lived in the same diverse and yet close-knit community; we sometimes passed in the bookstore. We didn’t pal around, and I had nothing to do with his positions.
I believe that wasn't the end of the story, and additional facts later came out. In any event, Obama's political career was launched at a fundraiser held in Bill Ayers' living room.
I believe that wasn't the end of the story, and additional facts later came out. In any event, Obama's political career was launched at a fundraiser held in Bill Ayers' living room.
He's a respected professor of education at a prestigious university with ties to a lot of influential and powerful people and his living room was one of many that were used for meet and greets that day in 1995 when Obama began his pursuit of that senate seat.
I haven't told a lie about the ABC recording. I've argued that it lends corroboration to Parnas' account of what happened. You've taken a hardline stance that everything Parnas says must be dismissed because he's a criminal (which is a tad ironic, because it invites further questions about why Trump chooses to keep close company with criminals, instead of "the best people").
I'm not taking the "hardline stance" you propose. I'm saying:
(1) Parnas is unreliable, and we need more than just his word.
(2) There is no "ABC recording". There are two ABC recordings that ABC claims are excerpts from a longer recording. Why don't we get the entire recording? Presumably, because ABC wants to lie by omission.
(3) The amazing reaction suggests that the "lie by omission" that ABC is promoting is that Trump told Parnas to "take her out". That is utterly fantastical.
Bravo. Totally irrelevant to this topic. Bust since you brought this up--
Ayers himself had this to say about knowing Obama:
Obama and I sat on a board together; we lived in the same diverse and yet close-knit community; we sometimes passed in the bookstore. We didn’t pal around, and I had nothing to do with his positions.
Yup OBama lied about Ayers
And Trump lied about PArnas -- we all lose....nobody wins.
I'm not taking the "hardline stance" you propose. I'm saying:
(1) There is no "ABC recording". There are two ABC recordings that ABC claims are excerpts from a longer recording. Why don't we get the entire recording? Presumably, because ABC wants to lie by omission.
(2) The amazing reaction suggests that the "lie by omission" that ABC is promoting is that Trump told Parnas to "take her out". That is utterly fantastical.
Does Trump know Lev?
Yes.
Why lie?
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It is entirely possible this could be an attempt by Dem's to have pulled photos of them and are stirring the pot. ..
