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That's not true at all but even if it was there needs to be a single minimum standard, lakes and rivers border many states, we don't need 10 different standards. The EPA is very reliant on states for enforcement which has been minimal in some areas, Duke Power in NC comes to mind.
All these mindless Trump-bots that are responding to you would be perfectly fine living downstream from a coal plant that just put their coal-ash into a river, because "their land, their choice".
It takes a special level of ignorance to ask if you hate farmers for not supporting a bill to allow them to pollute, but in the same breath, you are perfectly OK with the land-owner up-stream doing whatever they want with that same water (pollute, divert, take it all, etc.) AND they are fine with a POTUS who imposes taxes and tariffs on the products that farmers sell, litterally taking their market from them with the stroke of a pen.
With all that said, I will say that some of these laws were redundant, and some were perhaps tying hands of farmers and other businesses, so I am open to the laws changing and evolving, but the knee-jerk reaction of the ignorant, to act like if you disagree with them, you hate (fill in the blank), it's emblematic of why our country is going down the crapper as the hate-filled trump base keeps spouting off without the slightest understanding of pretty much anything other than guns, fake religion and straw-men.
All these mindless Trump-bots that are responding to you would be perfectly fine living downstream from a coal plant that just put their coal-ash into a river, because "their land, their choice".
It takes a special level of ignorance to ask if you hate farmers for not supporting a bill to allow them to pollute, but in the same breath, you are perfectly OK with the land-owner up-stream doing whatever they want with that same water (pollute, divert, take it all, etc.) AND they are fine with a POTUS who imposes taxes and tariffs on the products that farmers sell, litterally taking their market from them with the stroke of a pen.
With all that said, I will say that some of these laws were redundant, and some were perhaps tying hands of farmers and other businesses, so I am open to the laws changing and evolving, but the knee-jerk reaction of the ignorant, to act like if you disagree with them, you hate (fill in the blank), it's emblematic of why our country is going down the crapper as the hate-filled trump base keeps spouting off without the slightest understanding of pretty much anything other than guns, fake religion and straw-men.
All these mindless Trump-bots that are responding to you would be perfectly fine living downstream from a coal plant that just put their coal-ash into a river, because "their land, their choice".
It takes a special level of ignorance to ask if you hate farmers for not supporting a bill to allow them to pollute, but in the same breath, you are perfectly OK with the land-owner up-stream doing whatever they want with that same water (pollute, divert, take it all, etc.) AND they are fine with a POTUS who imposes taxes and tariffs on the products that farmers sell, litterally taking their market from them with the stroke of a pen.
With all that said, I will say that some of these laws were redundant, and some were perhaps tying hands of farmers and other businesses, so I am open to the laws changing and evolving, but the knee-jerk reaction of the ignorant, to act like if you disagree with them, you hate (fill in the blank), it's emblematic of why our country is going down the crapper as the hate-filled trump base keeps spouting off without the slightest understanding of pretty much anything other than guns, fake religion and straw-men.
So are they redundant or do you actually believe without Federal EPA mandates on top of state EPA mandates and existing environmental protections coal plant are suddenly going to be allowed to dump ash into the river.
Talk about knee-jerk reactions of the ignorant.
All these mindless Trump-bots that are responding to you would be perfectly fine living downstream from a coal plant that just put their coal-ash into a river, because "their land, their choice".
It takes a special level of ignorance to ask if you hate farmers for not supporting a bill to allow them to pollute, but in the same breath, you are perfectly OK with the land-owner up-stream doing whatever they want with that same water (pollute, divert, take it all, etc.) AND they are fine with a POTUS who imposes taxes and tariffs on the products that farmers sell, litterally taking their market from them with the stroke of a pen.
With all that said, I will say that some of these laws were redundant, and some were perhaps tying hands of farmers and other businesses, so I am open to the laws changing and evolving, but the knee-jerk reaction of the ignorant, to act like if you disagree with them, you hate (fill in the blank), it's emblematic of why our country is going down the crapper as the hate-filled trump base keeps spouting off without the slightest understanding of pretty much anything other than guns, fake religion and straw-men.
Talk about a knee jerk reaction...So, now that some of these laws maybe redundant, it's going to allow coal mines and farmers to do whatever they want....
Yes, there is a very special level of ignorance....bless your heart....
Many EPA regs are redundant. EVERY STATE has their version of the EPA with very strict environmental regulations.
Airborne particles and waterways don't stop at state borders.
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Streams and rivers don't just happen, they are fed from smaller bodies of water and can pollute. The picture in the article is a good indication, farms can easily pollute wetlands and subsequently rivers.
Nitrogen runoff from farms is a large issue with many bodies of water, Lake Erie is a good example.
That would be all well and good if the pollutant stayed on the farmer's land (well, not really because groundwater, but that might be too difficult of a concept for some to handle). But it doesn't. It drifts downstream, downwind, across state borders ...
Obama's WOTUS act was far over-reaching. Funny how the press doesn't go into the details of what Trump is removing and none of you arguing within this post seem to have a clue. Some relatives of mine were looking at property and 0.08 acres of "seasonal wetland and streams" (it dried up in summer and everything died) made over 3.8 acres of a 5 acre parcel useless. AND called out such areas and their buffer zones under control of the federal government. Prior to WOTUS such an area wasn't even defined as a wetland, despite there being PLENTY of protection still in place without WOTUS. Just down the street, a McDonalds was built on fill pushed out into a large and very obvious wetland area. All WOTUS did was hurt the little guy and offer Pay-to-Play for the rest.
Oh good, I can create a pond instead of using an old stock tank to water my cows.
And not have your property seized from you for having a mud puddle on it. WTUS was one of the worst cases of executive overreach in history. Glad to see some common sense finally break out.
Sewage treatment is different than Trump's roll back of environmental regulations on streams and wetlands, you need to be specific on which environmental regulation he is rolling back because there are many. This has nothing to do with Sewage and I wasn't attempting to use hyperbole, just the facts.
Pure drinking water will be more valuable than oil down the road, we shouldn't take clean water for granted. The fact that we need to use bottled water should be a warning sign.
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