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Old 01-28-2020, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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UK has a serious binge drinking problem with young adults both at home and at holiday destinations. Their and other overseas media reports on it frequently.




Stereotype much, LOL.

What, did you get turned down? I didn't and I had a great time. As did my son (class of '19) when he pledged.
The UK and Europe doesn't have frats house and fraternities or sorority, so I am not sure what I am supposed to have been turned down from.

As for sterotyping, Britain is 25th in the world in terms of alcohol comsumption.

The French, Germans, Portugese and Austrialians drink more alcohol units that the British, as do Russia and most of Eastemr Europe, whilst other European countries such as Denmark, Spain, Switzerland, Belgium etc and countries such as New Zealand are just below British Consumption levels.

List of countries by alcohol consumption per capita - Wikipedia

Alcohol consumption is actually declining among the young in the UK, as is binge drinking and indeed drug use.

Generation Sensible' in five charts - BBC News

Rise of teetotalism: almost half of Brits shun regular drinking - Telegraph

Nearly 30% of young people in England do not drink, study finds - The Guardian

Under-25s turning their backs on alcohol, study suggests - BBC News

The strange death of boozy Britain: why are young people drinking less? - The New Statesman

Alcohol consumption in the UK has fallen by almost a fifth over the last decade to the same level as in 1979.

Binge-drinking continues to fall in young adults - BBC News

Young people turning their backs on alcohol - NHS

As for Hospital Figures, Drug and Violence admissions have fallen in recent years.

Decline in number of hospital admissions for drug-related mental and and behavioural disorders - NHS

Fewer people injured in violent attacks - A&E data study - BBC News

UK suicide rate shows largest drop for 20 years - BBC News


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Old 01-28-2020, 06:40 AM
 
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The UK and Europe doesn't have frats house and fraternities or sorority, so I am not sure what I am supposed to have been turned down from.
Not quite true Mr. Brave. German universities have very similar organizations:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studentenverbindung

If you are good with a sword, they would probably take you as dueling is cherished activity.

And to be blunt, the combination of Greek life and the British Class System might be a bit too much for everyone.
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Old 01-28-2020, 06:56 AM
 
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My problem with fraternities/sororities is that they’re single sex, and this can result in traditional gender roles.
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Why does it mean frats has more problems with hazing than sororities?
Gender roles reinforced by single sex institutions following traditions.

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Old 01-28-2020, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Austin
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My problem with fraternities/sororities is that they’re single sex, and this can result in traditional gender roles.

Gender roles reinforced by single sex institutions following traditions.
why in the world would you think friendships between women in a sorority is a bad thing? do you have any women friends? are you against all women having women friends?

you made a pretty sexist statement, redguitar, by assuming women having friendships with other women "result in traditional gender roles". good grief....do you think women are dumb??

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Old 01-28-2020, 07:39 PM
 
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My problem with fraternities/sororities is that they’re single sex, and this can result in traditional gender roles.
Result in traditional gender roles of which type?

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Gender roles reinforced by single sex institutions following traditions.
Not all Greek organizations are "single sex".

There are social fraternities which are usually either all male or all female, as well as honor/academic fraternities & special interest fraternities.
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Old 01-29-2020, 05:36 AM
 
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why in the world would you think friendships between women in a sorority is a bad thing? do you have any women friends? are you against all women having women friends?

you made a pretty sexist statement, redguitar, by assuming women having friendships with other women "result in traditional gender roles". good grief....do you think women are dumb??
That’s not what I was saying at all. Where did you get any of that from?
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Old 02-01-2020, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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A Cornell University freshman found dead in an upstate New York ravine in October attended a fraternity party with seven drinking rooms the night before he went missing, according to a lawsuit filed by his parents.
Antonio Tsialas, an 18-year-old from Miami, went missing on Oct. 24. His body was found two days later in a gorge in Ithaca.
When he was found, the teen still had on a sweatshirt he wore to the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity party, according to the lawsuit filed Wednesday in Tompkins County Supreme Court in Ithaca. A white shirt he had been wearing underneath was located along the side of the gorge in a bush.
The white shirt had vomit on it and the imprint of a shoe or sneaker, the suit says. The teen’s cellphone was not found.
His parents, Flavia Tomasello and John Tsialas, are suing the fraternity, the Ivy League school and several Phi Kappa Psi members, alleging negligence and premise liability. They are seeking damages.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...r-was-n1127361
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Old 02-01-2020, 09:52 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I'm somewhat liberal and a lot of the reason why is the type of behavior I saw in our fraternity house. Brett Kavanaugh would have been right at home in my frat house.
Well, frat houses are definitely a different story - especially when the alcohol is flowing.

I can remember waking up a couple of new pledges who had passed out at one of the more rowdy fraternities and telling them 'you cannot stay here".

It's hard to tell what might have happened.
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Old 02-08-2020, 07:09 PM
 
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They`re underaged drinking clubs and always have been. They do a token fundraiser now and then as cover for what they really are.
In the days of Prohibition, they served as speakeasies for the sons of the WASP elite as well as initiation into the WASP elite.
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Old 02-08-2020, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Raise self confident, intelligent children who don't feel the need to join a silly little club to feel important or accepted.
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