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Old 02-13-2020, 10:23 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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Someone causing harm to others need to be isolated... that's what I believe. If we allowed anyone to do whatever they wanted, it is a fact, that our society would crumble and it is a fact that doctors can diagnose anyone with a mental disorder. Like the affluenza kid who is allowed to rape girls or drive drunk and kill people. I don't care what mental disorder title you give the person, they cause harm to others, they need to go. If you allow them to do whatever they want, we as a society will crumble. Those are facts.
Your generalized concept is fine. Your failure lies in your inability to proportionally define harm. And, again, beliefs are unproven desires.

In any case, as you can see, even though lots share your vague and overgeneralized, oversimplified definitions of harm, your protests aren’t winning. There are reasons for that. And the reasons aren’t that anyone says what you so often accuse of being said: that these behaviors are ok, nothing to see here, etc etc etc. of course things aren’t “ok”. Beginning with your lack of understanding the sciences underlying homelessness, drug/substance abuse, and crime.

 
Old 02-19-2020, 03:51 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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After Bloomberg’s admitted total cluelessness about the wrongness of stop-and-frisk policy here, and the deep harm and alienation that it caused in black and Hispanic communities, I’m a bit taken aback that any black pol could back Bloomberg.
Ding-Ding! There's no unity amongst any class/group of people, why am I telling you this!!! You might be surprised how many middle and upper middle class Black and Hispanic's endorsed this policy.

There's no unity amongst Gays, Jews, Caucasians, Blacks, Asians, Hispanic's! Never has been, never will be!

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Old 02-19-2020, 04:01 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Alas. I think any hope of a Democrat win in the upcoming elections is a pipe dream. Irregardless of the candidate. Do you think Trump isn’t imboldened by acquittal. Thanks to Republican Senators I’m guessing that Trump is already on the phone strong arming Ukraine again and conspiring with Putin to interfere in the election with all their resources. Trump is virtually untouchable now just like the old Mafia Dons.
You talk like you're a Psychic but I'm not going to hire you to do a psychic reading for me, until I see your track record!

Bloomberg literally bought his 3 elections as Mayor of NYC and he'll do the same with the Presidency!

Not enough delegate votes?

Pete! Bernie! I'll give you 5 million for each of your delegates! And a Cabinet post of your liking!

I applaud the Mayors of CA endorsing Bloomberg as our only hope of removing Trump, and if Bernie really wanted to do something patriotic, he'd tell his supporters he doesn't have a snowball chance in hell of winning and to endorse Bloomberg instead!
 
Old 02-19-2020, 07:33 AM
 
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After Bloomberg’s admitted total cluelessness about the wrongness of stop-and-frisk policy here, and the deep harm and alienation that it caused in black and Hispanic communities, I’m a bit taken aback that any black pol could back Bloomberg.
Perfect is the enemy of good.

If Bloomberg appeals to the swing states then we need him to be our candidate. I feel Sanders will fail and Trump will be re-elected. In fact, I'm already resigned to this outcome.

OP, can you expand on why you feel it is interesting that Breed endorsed Bloomberg? Cheers.
 
Old 02-19-2020, 08:19 AM
 
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Democrats need to stop having purity tests because no person has a perfect past. If someone appears to be perfect now and before, they probably had to kill a lot of people to keep that record or did a lot of shady stuff behind the scenes. Bloomberg definetly has the best chance against Trump because there isn’t much Trump can say to scare people from voting for Bloomberg. Now if Warren or Sanders wins, geez there is so much ammunition for Trump especially if the economy and stock market is still doing well at election time. Biden would just gaffe himself to death. Pete I think could hold himself up, but when push comes to shove, I think people will get cold feet voting for such a young person from such a small town.
 
Old 02-19-2020, 08:25 AM
 
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Democrats need to stop having purity tests because no person has a perfect past. If someone appears to be perfect now and before, they probably had to kill a lot of people to keep that record or did a lot of shady stuff behind the scenes. Bloomberg definetly has the best chance against Trump because there isn’t much Trump can say to scare people from voting for Bloomberg. Now if Warren or Sanders wins, geez there is so much ammunition for Trump especially if the economy and stock market is still doing well at election time. Biden would just gaffe himself to death. Pete I think could hold himself up, but when push comes to shove, I think people will get cold feet voting for such a young person from such a small town.
Lmao ... “ammo” gets it done, huh?

How much “ammo” was there against Trump? And ALL got used. And who’s in the White House? *phbbbt*
 
Old 02-19-2020, 08:28 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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Perfect is the enemy of good.

If Bloomberg appeals to the swing states then we need him to be our candidate. I feel Sanders will fail and Trump will be re-elected. In fact, I'm already resigned to this outcome.

OP, can you expand on why you feel it is interesting that Breed endorsed Bloomberg? Cheers.
Mmmm. “Swing states” like mid-western / farm communities? Yeah, Mike’s got their vote ... not:

Did Mike Bloomberg Say ‘Anybody Can Be a Farmer,’ Tech Work Requires ‘More Gray Matter’?
South Dakota's Republican governor accused the 2020 presidential candidate of "pompous ignorance" for remarks he made in 2016.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bl...s-gray-matter/
 
Old 02-19-2020, 08:36 AM
 
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Lmao ... “ammo” gets it done, huh?

How much “ammo” was there against Trump? And ALL got used. And who’s in the White House? *phbbbt*
You will learn the hard way my dear friend if you nominate a socialist. What’s more important winning the election through a moderate who cares about the economy or losing the general, but feeling good you nominated a socialist? I feel like most Democrats care more about getting Trump out of the White House vs choosing a candidate they absolutely love, but maybe not.
 
Old 02-19-2020, 09:03 AM
 
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You will learn the hard way my dear friend if you nominate a socialist. What’s more important winning the election through a moderate who cares about the economy or losing the general, but feeling good you nominated a socialist? I feel like most Democrats care more about getting Trump out of the White House vs choosing a candidate they absolutely love, but maybe not.
I will happily vote for Bloomberg if he is nominated. I consider him a very competent executive, with a good head and mostly very good intentions. Not ego-driven, to boot - bonus! He is also a blind horse’s arse in a number of ways that I think likely to scuttle his candidacy.

My favorite candidate was Yang. He’s out. I see Sanders as much stronger than you think ... a strange degree of parallel to Trump’s populist wave in 2016, while being a polar opposite at the same time.

I don’t care about right or left ideology winning offices much at all. I am laser focused on character, mental health, and patriotic intentions to serve the peoples’ interests.

True conservative intellectuals and liberal intellectuals can both, one as well as the other, govern competently in my view.

Today’s faux conservatives are destroying the nation with their obsequious, self-serving idolatry.

Nauseating to watch every day. Shameful.
 
Old 02-19-2020, 09:46 AM
 
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I will happily vote for Bloomberg if he is nominated. I consider him a very competent executive, with a good head and mostly very good intentions. Not ego-driven, to boot - bonus! He is also a blind horse’s arse in a number of ways that I think likely to scuttle his candidacy.

My favorite candidate was Yang. He’s out. I see Sanders as much stronger than you think ... a strange degree of parallel to Trump’s populist wave in 2016, while being a polar opposite at the same time.

I don’t care about right or left ideology winning offices much at all. I am laser focused on character, mental health, and patriotic intentions to serve the peoples’ interests.

True conservative intellectuals and liberal intellectuals can both, one as well as the other, govern competently in my view.

Today’s faux conservatives are destroying the nation with their obsequious, self-serving idolatry.

Nauseating to watch every day. Shameful.

I agree that Bernie is similar to Trump, not in policies (some ways yes though), they are both party outsiders where the establishment wanted them out. However, I'd argue the opposite media wise. The MSM is trying to race bait the entire country, divide the country up into races, income groups, etc. Very destructive to the country, good thing we have a president that doesn't bow to the media. I think the DNC is having an internal debate right now... one side says we need someone like Bloomberg to win the election and the other side says if voters think we changed the rules for Bloomberg to win, we could see a lot of protest votes from angry progressives in the party.
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