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Old 02-02-2020, 11:57 AM
 
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I certainly see why they didn't want Bolton's testimony but it will eventually come out and the republicans will certainly look foolish.


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"it will eventually come out and the republicans will certainly look foolish."
We already have video of Bolton and what he said. This will certainly come out and the dems will look foolish, AGAIN!
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Old 02-02-2020, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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"it will eventually come out and the republicans will certainly look foolish."
We already have video of Bolton and what he said. This will certainly come out and the dems will look foolish, AGAIN!
Soo...
Trump said it didnt happen
The supposed victim, the President of Ukraine said it didnt happen
The WH transcript shows it didnt happen..

But because a bitter, former employee, trying to sell a book says it did? Thats the 100% proof as fact?

Really?
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Old 02-02-2020, 02:45 PM
 
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The book expose is the new “15 minutes of fame”. Few are truthful or worth reading. Meh.
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Old 02-02-2020, 05:25 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Trump could always beat himself. All it would take is some thoughtless knee-jerk reaction to plunge us into a war or domestic emergency. Everyone knows that is a possibility any day, every day.
You're "Waiting for Godot" on that.
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Old 02-02-2020, 05:29 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Republicans simply think what Trump did involving Ukraine is simply a legitimate part of the game of playing politics. But they would surely no longer think that way if the president was a Democrat. Therefore, Trump must not be removed.
Hunter and Joe Biden thought their corrupt BS would never be caught because it occurred in Kyiv. That's why the Democrats (and I am a proud, liberal Democrat) are screaming like stuck pigs. Note, the whole fight is over how they were caught, not what they were caught doing.
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Old 02-02-2020, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Bolton's book would make a nice Xmas present for Dems next year. They seem to buy a lot of books, only later do they find out they were in the fiction section.
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Old 02-02-2020, 05:40 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Bolton's book would make a nice Xmas present for Dems next year. They seem to buy a lot of books, only later do they find out they were in the fiction section.
In the past I've liked Bolton but he seems to have a very rocky employment history. Now we're seeing why.
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Old 02-02-2020, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Trump has already survived any number of 'blockbuster' books, including Fear by Woodward, Comey's book, McCabe's book, Christie's book, etc. He'll survive this one too.


I thought it might be a good idea for Team Trump to bring in Bolton as a witness to get his story under oath, and with the opportunity to cross-examine him. Obviously Team Trump felt otherwise.

I welcome his book just for the sake of history, and plan to read it. He's playing the leaking game, which to me suggests a level of untrustworthiness. I'm reading Nikki Haley's book right now, and she paints a pretty positive picture of Trump. I highly recommend her book.
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Old 02-02-2020, 07:10 PM
 
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I don't care one way or the other if Trump is guilty. What I care about is the truth. I already believe if one has nothing to hide they will hide nothing so I am leaning towards Trump being guilty because they have tried so hard to prevent testimony or documents from being seen.
If we have first hand witnesses like Bolton and Mulvanny testify we will all have a better picture. We deserve the truth.
The democrats in the house had all the power to call as many witnesses as they wanted in the house. Absolutely anyone. The timing of Bolton coming out is awfully suspicious. Bolton was available when the house was in control, so why no call him as a witness then. The fact is there is not an impeachable case against Trump. They couldn’t and there isn’t.
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Old 02-02-2020, 07:31 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Trump has already survived any number of 'blockbuster' books, including Fear by Woodward, Comey's book, McCabe's book, Christie's book, etc. He'll survive this one too.


I thought it might be a good idea for Team Trump to bring in Bolton as a witness to get his story under oath, and with the opportunity to cross-examine him. Obviously Team Trump felt otherwise.

I welcome his book just for the sake of history, and plan to read it. He's playing the leaking game, which to me suggests a level of untrustworthiness. I'm reading Nikki Haley's book right now, and she paints a pretty positive picture of Trump. I highly recommend her book.
The reason they didn't want Bolton to testify is the same reason that treason is almost always pleaded down to a lower offense. Traitors can spill lots of dirt and take a lot of good people down with them.
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