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The Palestinians should have accepted the proposed boundaries agreed in 2000 by the Clinton administration and the Israeli government. They would have been given 90% + of the West Bank under those proposals. But Arafat and the Palestinians would have nothing to do with it. It is likely that was the best deal they would ever be offered. The current Trump proposal is a lot less generous.
There has never been a "Palestinian" state in history. Historically, there has never been a "Palestinian" people, either. When the West Bank and Gaza were under Arab Muslim control (1947-1967), the Arabs had absolutely no concern for the "Palestinians". The Palestinian demand for 100% of the West Bank, all of East Jerusalem, and the "Right of Return" will NEVER happen.
The Palestinians instead started the second intifada that included blowing up buses filled with civilians. The ongoing reply each time peace is proposed.
The deal is excellent: the Palestinians get their own state, East Jerusalem as their capitol, $50 BILLION (!!), and yet the terrorist0-led Palestinians will reject it. What this shows is that the inability to achieve peace is the Palestinians' fault, not the Israelis - and that the multitude of posts putting all the blame on Israel is driven by antisemitism.
I know you're looking for a way to dump on Israelis Jews, but ALL the money is going to Arabs: Mostly the Palestinians, but also to Jordan, Egypt, and Lebanon.
To answer your direct question, the bulk of the money is coming from private capital and loans, and $15 billion is coming from grants. If it brings peace to the region - it won't because Palestinians won't accept anything that acknowledges Israel's right to exist - I think it's money well spent. Compare that to the $160 billion it costs to support illegal aliens and their families year, after year, after year.
It's a moot point, though. Palestinians would sooner cut off their right arm than do anything to bring about peace. HAMAS wants continued bloodshed because it suits their anti-Jew propaganda narrative.
I know you're looking for a way to dump on Israelis Jews
No, you dont know. You need to stop trying to play that card at every opportunity.
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It's a moot point, though. Palestinians would sooner cut off their right arm than do anything to bring about peace. HAMAS wants continued bloodshed because it suits their anti-Jew propaganda narrative.
Any deal which is designed to be rejected is a moot point and cheap politics.
You said a fraction of it would come from loans, and they you started talking about illegal aliens.
Anyway the deal was designed to be rejected, so it is just cheap politics.
You skipped my point: That the anti-Jew Palestinians will NEVER accept a peace plan, even if it were to give them a Palestinian states and tens of billions of dollars to bring it up to the 20th century (21st would be a reach; even 20th would be a big improvement) because of their anti-Jew attitudes.
As far as "cheap politics," you mean it reveals how DISGUSTINGLY HATEFUL the Palestinians are, and that the Israeli Jews are being reasonable? No....we certainly wouldn't want that out! I can see why the BDS crowd would object.
(And I spoke about illegal aliens because I know you were going to start in about not spending the money at all - you've said before how you're opposed to giving money to other countries - so I pre-empted your complaint by showing how much more we are spending on the illegal aliens which liberals defend.)
You skipped my point: That the anti-Jew Palestinians will NEVER accept a peace plan, even if it were to give them a Palestinian states and tens of billions of dollars to bring it up to the 20th century (21st would be a reach; even 20th would be a big improvement) because of their anti-Jew attitudes.
They you agree the whole "plan" was just cheap politics. Maybe it would have made sense to include them in the negotiations.
They you agree the whole "plan" was just cheap politics. Maybe it would have made sense to include them in the negotiations.
Maybe the moderate Arabs can pressure the terrorist Palestinians into accepting a deal that will help them all. As to why the terrorist HAMAS-led Palestinians weren't included, maybe this was just a first step.
Finally, let's even say it was what you call "cheap politics. Is revealing the truth - that it is the Palestinians blocking peace and NOT the Israelis - a bad thing? Why would progressive insist we keep up the lie that the Palestinians are poor, oppressed people who aren't being given a chance when it is THEY who are the stumbling block?
And WHY of WHY do liberals always take up the side of terrorists? (We sure saw that when Trump took out Soleimani. I thought the wailing of "assassinating an honored general" would never stop.)
They you agree the whole "plan" was just cheap politics. Maybe it would have made sense to include them in the negotiations.
This was not a "plan" in any sense of the word.
This was a public relations stunt put on by a couple guys desperate for some good press.
Had this been an actual plan, both sides would have been involved in the planning.
It would have been negotiated by someone who knew what the hell was going on. The first clue that this was nothing more than PR nonsense is that it was put together by Trump's son-in-law who had "read 25 books."
The plan would have made sense. Both sides knew the $50 billion was just BS. Neither the U.S. nor Israel is going to pony up $50 billion.
As to the requirements for a sovereign state, please. No other Arab nation in the region comes close to fulfilling these requirements. Hell, the U.S. misses the bar in several areas.
No, this was a a PR stunt and not a very good one at that.
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