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Old 01-30-2020, 12:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by newtovenice View Post
How can being a naked woman NOT be accused of ... being a woman?

I don't think you understand the words being used.

A naked woman is a naked woman. If she's dancing for money, I find that really sad. I wish she had more respect for herself. But I don't find that insulting because she is NOT insulting me. I know a naked woman has lady parts. I know men like to stare at them. None of that is "stereotypical." It's basic common knowledge.

A drag queen is a MAN pretending to be a WOMAN by intentionally taking every horrible, pathetic and sad physical and emotional stereotype of women and using that as an act. It's offensive. And insulting. Because they ARE using insults as the main point of the act. It's 100% negative. On purpose.
So that is your issue, they are not biological women.
Who gives a fig?

 
Old 01-30-2020, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Would you hire a blackface minstrel show to be entertainment at a fundraiser for minority scholarships?

Same thing. /shrug/

Not repeating this anymore.

Argue amongst yourselves at how fabulous offensive and insulting behavior is because if its LGBT it's gotta be accepted.
I am saying that YOU do not get to declare for ME what I find objectionable. I am a woman, and I am telling you that I do not find drag shows to be objectifying, or negative toward women. Neither do the majority of the audience which are generally women. But you wouldn't know about that since you have said that you have never even been to a drag show. You're just on here complaining about something that has no effect on your life, you are not required to see, and have no experience regarding.
 
Old 01-30-2020, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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The hate from the right never stops. People can't just ignore those they don't like anymore. The fox news dog whistle has people trained.
 
Old 01-30-2020, 01:38 PM
 
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I am saying that YOU do not get to declare for ME what I find objectionable. I am a woman, and I am telling you that I do not find drag shows to be objectifying, or negative toward women. Neither do the majority of the audience which are generally women. But you wouldn't know about that since you have said that you have never even been to a drag show. You're just on here complaining about something that has no effect on your life, you are not required to see, and have no experience regarding.
You did not read my post correctly. Your response is irrelevant.
 
Old 01-30-2020, 01:41 PM
 
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You've been to a blackface minstrel show? Good gawd.
Words mean things, do try to keep up.
 
Old 01-30-2020, 01:43 PM
 
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So that is your issue, they are not biological women.
Who gives a fig?
Your argument was the stereotypically stripper are objectionable.

What is stereotypic about a stripper? She's a woman. Right? She's insulting HERSELF by being a stripper, no one else. What's the stereotype that is in play?

A drag queen is an ACT that makes fun women by it's very nature. It's a stereotype of a stereotype, technically.

Not sure why you are pretending you don't understand that.
 
Old 01-30-2020, 02:18 PM
 
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When actual pr_0n is the halftime show, then our moral decay is noteworthy.

Until then...settle down, relax, take a few deep breaths.
 
Old 01-30-2020, 02:21 PM
 
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Your argument was the stereotypically stripper are objectionable.

What is stereotypic about a stripper? She's a woman. Right? She's insulting HERSELF by being a stripper, no one else. What's the stereotype that is in play?

A drag queen is an ACT that makes fun women by it's very nature. It's a stereotype of a stereotype, technically.

Not sure why you are pretending you don't understand that.
I'm not arguing, IMO, a stripper is more demeaning and insulting to women than a drag queen.
I'm not sure where or when stereotypical became the issue.

I was asking you if your issue is that drag queens are not biological women based on the statement in your post.
Honestly no I dont understand YOUR reasoning, I dont agree with it. Not everyone sees things the way you do believe it or not.
 
Old 01-30-2020, 02:33 PM
 
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The hate from the right never stops. People can't just ignore those they don't like anymore. The fox news dog whistle has people trained.
What you are not seeing is that what we don't like isn't their freak show, its how we are forced to accept it despite it being against our beliefs... the left can't handle me laughing at them and calling them freaks and they get all undone when it happens..
 
Old 01-30-2020, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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What you are not seeing is that what we don't like isn't their freak show, its how we are forced to accept it despite it being against our beliefs... the left can't handle me laughing at them and calling them freaks and they get all undone when it happens..
Then...change the channel.

Personal liberties should be the ideal. Not gay? Don’t sleep with your own gender. Don’t like abortion? Don’t get one. Don’t like guns? Don’t buy one. Don’t like a Prius? Don’t drive one.

You can say no to things without having to convince others that they should say no as well.
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